* Typesetting abbreviations
@ 2018-10-27 21:04 Clyde Johnston
2018-10-27 23:11 ` Alan Braslau
2018-10-28 9:53 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Clyde Johnston @ 2018-10-27 21:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
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What is the correct way to typeset an abbreviation in ConTeXt? The space
after the full stop seems too big and if I use \thinspace, I cannot use
ties.
No command - space is too big
\starttext
Mr. John Doe
\stoptext
With tie - space is too big
\starttext
Mr.~John Doe
\stoptext
With \thinspace - looks right except at an end of line
\starttext
Mr.\thinspace John Doe
\stoptext
Any suggestions are welcome!
Thanks,
Clyde
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* Re: Typesetting abbreviations
2018-10-27 21:04 Typesetting abbreviations Clyde Johnston
@ 2018-10-27 23:11 ` Alan Braslau
2018-10-28 9:53 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Alan Braslau @ 2018-10-27 23:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
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frenchpunctuation ;-)
On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 00:04:37 +0300
"Clyde Johnston" <context@couthies.com> wrote:
> What is the correct way to typeset an abbreviation in ConTeXt? The space
> after the full stop seems too big and if I use \thinspace, I cannot use
> ties.
>
>
>
> No command - space is too big
>
> \starttext
>
> Mr. John Doe
>
> \stoptext
>
>
>
> With tie - space is too big
>
> \starttext
>
> Mr.~John Doe
>
> \stoptext
>
>
>
> With \thinspace - looks right except at an end of line
>
> \starttext
>
> Mr.\thinspace John Doe
>
> \stoptext
>
>
>
> Any suggestions are welcome!
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Clyde
>
--
Alan
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* Re: Typesetting abbreviations
2018-10-27 21:04 Typesetting abbreviations Clyde Johnston
2018-10-27 23:11 ` Alan Braslau
@ 2018-10-28 9:53 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2018-10-28 10:59 ` Clyde Johnston
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2018-10-28 9:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Clyde Johnston
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You can disable the bigger space at the end of a sentence with the
spacing key from \setuplanguage but as you can see from the example
below ~ creates a normal space.
\setuppapersize[A8]
\starttext
Mr. \vrule John Doe
Mr.~\vrule John Doe
Mr.\nobreakspace\vrule John Doe
Mr.\ \vrule John Doe
Mr.\narrownobreakspace\vrule John Doe
\blank
Mr. \vrule John Doe
\setuplanguage [en] [spacing=packed]
Mr. \vrule John Doe
\stoptext
Wolfgang
Clyde Johnston schrieb am 27.10.18 um 23:04:
>
> What is the correct way to typeset an abbreviation in ConTeXt? The
> space after the full stop seems too big and if I use \thinspace, I
> cannot use ties.
>
> No command – space is too big
>
> \starttext
>
> Mr. John Doe
>
> \stoptext
>
> With tie – space is too big
>
> \starttext
>
> Mr.~John Doe
>
> \stoptext
>
> With \thinspace – looks right except at an end of line
>
> \starttext
>
> Mr.\thinspace John Doe
>
> \stoptext
>
> Any suggestions are welcome!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Clyde
>
>
>
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* Re: Typesetting abbreviations
2018-10-28 9:53 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2018-10-28 10:59 ` Clyde Johnston
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From: Clyde Johnston @ 2018-10-28 10:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Wolfgang Schuster', 'mailing list for ConTeXt users'
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This is very insightful. I am not a professional typographer but to my eye,
the problem is really with the period. It should really be treated as a
modification to the previous character rather than a separate full-stop
character. This way the spacing would work as designed.
\setuppapersize[A8]
\starttext
Mr. \vrule John Doe
Mr\kern-.1em.~\vrule John Doe
\setuplanguage [en] [spacing=packed]
Mr. \vrule John Doe
Mr\kern-.1em.~\vrule John Doe
\stoptext
Maybe this would be better handled with a macro.
Clyde
From: Wolfgang Schuster [mailto:wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2018 11:54 AM
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; Clyde Johnston
Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Typesetting abbreviations
You can disable the bigger space at the end of a sentence with the spacing
key from \setuplanguage but as you can see from the example below ~ creates
a normal space.
\setuppapersize[A8]
\starttext
Mr. \vrule John Doe
Mr.~\vrule John Doe
Mr.\nobreakspace\vrule John Doe
Mr.\ \vrule John Doe
Mr.\narrownobreakspace\vrule John Doe
\blank
Mr. \vrule John Doe
\setuplanguage [en] [spacing=packed]
Mr. \vrule John Doe
\stoptext
Wolfgang
Clyde Johnston schrieb am 27.10.18 um 23:04:
What is the correct way to typeset an abbreviation in ConTeXt? The space
after the full stop seems too big and if I use \thinspace, I cannot use
ties.
No command - space is too big
\starttext
Mr. John Doe
\stoptext
With tie - space is too big
\starttext
Mr.~John Doe
\stoptext
With \thinspace - looks right except at an end of line
\starttext
Mr.\thinspace John Doe
\stoptext
Any suggestions are welcome!
Thanks,
Clyde
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