Re: The usual install problem.

Re: The usual install problem.

[David Antos]

On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 07:39:58PM -0500, John Culleton wrote:
> OK I downloaded the zip file, unzipped it in /usr/share/texmf,
> tweaked wht files the installation instructions said to tweak
> and then tried to generate formats per page 6. When I run
> texexec -- make en nl
> 
> I get 
> TeXExec 1.9 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2000
>  
> fmtutil: no info for format `cont-en'.
> fmtutil: no info for format `cont-nl'.
>  
>             executable : pdfetex
>              format(s) : en nl
> Now teacher, what did I forget to do? Or should I have bypassed this 
> step
> altogether?
> 
> John Culleton

Is your TeX able to find the files? Have you rebuit the ls-R database?
BTW, the space between '--' and 'make' is not OK, but seems like a typo
in the mail only :-).

David

Re: The usual install problem.

[Taco Hoekwater]

> > fmtutil: no info for format `cont-en'.
> > fmtutil: no info for format `cont-nl'.

fmtutil (the format generation program) of teTex doesn't know 
how to generate the context formats.

The commmand:

  kpsewhich fmtutil.cnf

should give you the location of fmtutil.cnf, the file
teTeX uses for format information. Open it in an editor
and remove the comment signs before the lines that start
with 'cont-'.

If that didn't work (and only then), try

	texexec --make en nl --alone

-- 
groeten,

Taco

Re: The usual install problem.

[W. Egger]

Hi John,

Can texexc find the necessary files (run mktexlsr)?
Are the respective lines in fmtutil.cnf uncommented?

By the way your texexec is definitely old. Actual version is 2.6

AFAIK texexec.pl (as the other perl files) is not copied automatically into
the bin directory.

Willi
----- Original Message -----
From: John Culleton <john@wexfordpress.com>
To: <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 1:39 AM
Subject: The usual install problem.

> OK I downloaded the zip file, unzipped it in /usr/share/texmf,
> tweaked wht files the installation instructions said to tweak
> and then tried to generate formats per page 6. When I run
> texexec -- make en nl
>
> I get
> TeXExec 1.9 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2000
>
> fmtutil: no info for format `cont-en'.
> fmtutil: no info for format `cont-nl'.
>
>             executable : pdfetex
>              format(s) : en nl
> Now teacher, what did I forget to do? Or should I have bypassed this
> step
> altogether?
>
> John Culleton

The usual install problem.

[John Culleton]

OK I downloaded the zip file, unzipped it in /usr/share/texmf,
tweaked wht files the installation instructions said to tweak
and then tried to generate formats per page 6. When I run
texexec -- make en nl

I get 
TeXExec 1.9 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2000

fmtutil: no info for format `cont-en'.
fmtutil: no info for format `cont-nl'.

            executable : pdfetex
             format(s) : en nl
Now teacher, what did I forget to do? Or should I have bypassed this 
step
altogether?

John Culleton

Re: The usual install problem.

[Hans Hagen]

At 07:39 PM 2/22/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>OK I downloaded the zip file, unzipped it in /usr/share/texmf,
>tweaked wht files the installation instructions said to tweak
>and then tried to generate formats per page 6. When I run
>texexec -- make en nl
>
>I get
>TeXExec 1.9 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2000
>
>fmtutil: no info for format `cont-en'.
>fmtutil: no info for format `cont-nl'.
>
>             executable : pdfetex
>              format(s) : en nl
>Now teacher, what did I forget to do? Or should I have bypassed this
>step

texexec --make --alone

then (if needed) move the *.efmt *.mem files to the path reported by 
"kpsewhich tex.fmt" and run "mktexlsr"

>altogether?

this sounds like an awful old set of files since we now have texexec 2.7

can you fetch the beta from www.pragma-pod.nl (or ds035.xs4all.nl)?

Hans

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Re: The usual install problem.

[Frans Goddijn]

> can you fetch the beta from www.pragma-pod.nl 

gives me "Deze domeinnaam is gereserveerd door een klant van XS4ALL"

> (or http://ds035.xs4all.nl)?

that works!

Frans

Re: The usual install problem.

[Frans Goddijn]

> > (or http://ds035.xs4all.nl)?
>
> that works!

What's more, a basic example font test file with my fonts that Taco sent me,
did not work entirely with the latest ConTeXt file on www.ntg.nl but it did
after I could download the "latest beta" from the site you mention above.

So I advise anyone to try http://ds035.xs4all.nl if the proper URL is
unavailable.

Frans

Re[2]: The usual install problem.

[Giuseppe Bilotta]

Monday, February 25, 2002 Hans Hagen wrote:

HH> texexec --make --alone

By the way, Hans, when I

texexec --make metafun

the metafun.mem file is put together with the (pdfe)TeX formats,
and not together with the other Metapost .mem files. (Using MiKTeX
2.1). Shouldn't this be fixed somehow?

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Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta
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Re[2]: The usual install problem.

[Hans Hagen]

At 10:36 PM 2/25/2002 +0100, Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

>Monday, February 25, 2002 Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>HH> texexec --make --alone
>
>By the way, Hans, when I
>
>texexec --make metafun
>
>the metafun.mem file is put together with the (pdfe)TeX formats,
>and not together with the other Metapost .mem files. (Using MiKTeX
>2.1). Shouldn't this be fixed somehow?

what does --alone do?

btw, you can set the assiciated env var ($TEXFORMATS or alike) to indicate 
the place or edit texexec.ini

Hans

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Re[3]: The usual install problem.

[Giuseppe Bilotta]

>>
>>By the way, Hans, when I
>>
>>texexec --make metafun
>>
>>the metafun.mem file is put together with the (pdfe)TeX formats,
>>and not together with the other Metapost .mem files. (Using MiKTeX
>>2.1). Shouldn't this be fixed somehow?

HH> what does --alone do?

The same. Puts it in the wrong place.

The problem as I see it is that RunMpFormat uses
LocatedFormatPath, which is wrong because the .mem path is usually
different from the .fmt path.

--
Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

Re[3]: The usual install problem.

[Hans Hagen]

At 10:05 PM 2/26/2002 +0100, Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

> >>
> >>By the way, Hans, when I
> >>
> >>texexec --make metafun
> >>
> >>the metafun.mem file is put together with the (pdfe)TeX formats,
> >>and not together with the other Metapost .mem files. (Using MiKTeX
> >>2.1). Shouldn't this be fixed somehow?
>
>HH> what does --alone do?
>
>The same. Puts it in the wrong place.
>
>The problem as I see it is that RunMpFormat uses
>LocatedFormatPath, which is wrong because the .mem path is usually
>different from the .fmt path.

You can set both

TeXFormatPath
MpFormatPath

in texexec.ini

Hans
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Re[4]: The usual install problem.

[Giuseppe Bilotta]

Wednesday, February 27, 2002 Hans Hagen wrote:
>>
>>The problem as I see it is that RunMpFormat uses
>>LocatedFormatPath, which is wrong because the .mem path is usually
>>different from the .fmt path.

HH> You can set both

HH> TeXFormatPath
HH> MpFormatPath

HH> in texexec.ini

I will. But it would be nice if TeXExec did it on its own ;-)

--
Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

Re[4]: The usual install problem.

[Hans Hagen]

At 11:53 AM 2/28/2002 +0100, Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

>Wednesday, February 27, 2002 Hans Hagen wrote:
> >>
> >>The problem as I see it is that RunMpFormat uses
> >>LocatedFormatPath, which is wrong because the .mem path is usually
> >>different from the .fmt path.
>
>HH> You can set both
>
>HH> TeXFormatPath
>HH> MpFormatPath
>
>HH> in texexec.ini
>
>I will. But it would be nice if TeXExec did it on its own ;-)

not for miktex i'm afraid

Hans

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Re[5]: The usual install problem.

[Giuseppe Bilotta]

Thursday, February 28, 2002 Hans Hagen wrote:

>>
>>I will. But it would be nice if TeXExec did it on its own ;-)

HH> not for miktex i'm afraid

Uhm. MiKTeX has a "web2c compatibility" program, and kpsewhich
--show-path=fmt works indeed. The problem is that kpsewhich
--show-path=mem does not. I'll report this to Christian Schenk.

Of course one could use the 'dirty' trick of changing the last fmt
in path to mem, according to the TDS.

--
Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

Re[5]: The usual install problem.

[Giuseppe Bilotta]

Thursday, February 28, 2002 Hans Hagen wrote:
>>
>>I will. But it would be nice if TeXExec did it on its own ;-)

HH> not for miktex i'm afraid

Ok, I filed the enhancement request to add mem for the filetypes
searched for by kpsewhich. (Yes, MiKTeX 2.1 comes with a Web2C
emulation package which has the kpsewhich program.)

Anyway, for a 'native' MiKTeX solution to the automatic format
generation/placement:

makemem metafun

will create metafun and put it in the right folder (if you want to
know the folder, you can analyze the output from

makemem metafun -n

which in the butlast line says

move metafun.mem c:\localtexmf\miktex\mem

and so you get to know where .mem go).

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Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta