From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/58640 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Thomas Floeren" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Hyphenation of composed words Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 10:17:50 +0200 Message-ID: <000b01caf019$483f7f50$8614a8c0@boschung.local> References: <20100416164615.7381cc63@vorbis> <4BC8D7B8.4090406@wxs.nl><20100509213411.31b62ed9@vorbis> <4BE77CB8.7010800@googlemail.com> <20100510072707.19eb2897@vorbis> Reply-To: thomas.floeren@boschung.com, mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1273479493 17091 80.91.229.12 (10 May 2010 08:18:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 08:18:13 +0000 (UTC) To: "'mailing list for ConTeXt users'" Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon May 10 10:18:09 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OBOBl-0006X1-75 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 May 2010 10:18:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9E3C9CC8; Mon, 10 May 2010 10:18:07 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id ueYJJPJ0H1do; Mon, 10 May 2010 10:18:06 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC62EC9BA1; Mon, 10 May 2010 10:17:57 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01ACC9BA1 for ; Mon, 10 May 2010 10:17:56 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id YQGgbst7Jfs1 for ; Mon, 10 May 2010 10:17:51 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from smtp2.infomaniak.ch (smtp2.infomaniak.ch [84.16.68.90]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C5FAC9B7E for ; Mon, 10 May 2010 10:17:51 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from wma007 (17.1.90.85.cust.static.gepowernet.ch [85.90.1.17]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp2.infomaniak.ch (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o4A8Hp5C015922 for ; Mon, 10 May 2010 10:17:51 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <20100510072707.19eb2897@vorbis> Thread-Index: AcrwAtbtih0r8y3JSv64dbklHkMc1QAEzeog X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: Dr.Web (R) for Mail Servers on smtp2 host X-Antivirus-Code: 100000 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:58640 Archived-At: Marco <> wrote on Monday, May 10, 2010 7:27 AM: >> 1. || does *not* produce a en-dash but to kerned hyphens > You're right, I looked it up in the sources. It just looked like an > en-dash for me. But this is wrong. For hyphenation a hyphen is used. > The > font designer has created a dedicated glyph for this purpose. And two > hyphens (or an en-dash) is too large. I've never seen the advice in a > typography book to kern two hyphens. I don't know why this is > implemented like this. > >> 2. The correct method to get a *normal* hyphen is >> >> \setuphyphenmark[sign=normal] >> > Yes, this is the correct method. It should be enabled by default. If > somebody wants a larger hyphen (for some mysterious reasen), he/she > can set it > up with > > \setuphyphenmark[sign=wide] > It seems that the en-dash *can* be used in English in some cases: 'high-priority--high-pressure tasks' from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyphen >> If the output is not correct it's a bug. > Yes, it is a bug. Hans already confirmed and said, he'll fix it, but > it is not > yet done, that's why I wanted to remember him. You can try and run > the example from my first post. With Thomas' workaround the output is > OK, but it is only a workaround. I (and probably many other users) > would like to have correct > behaviour by default. > Concerning the hyphen sign, '\setuphyphenmark[sign=normal]' works as expected on my system (= normal hyphen sign). But it was (is?) not usable because, in case of a line break, the hyphen sometimes was placed at the beginning of a new line. With '\def\compoundhyphen{-}' the compound hyphen breaks correctly. 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