more folds to bind a book

more folds to bind a book

[Lukas Kubin]

I need to print a book for binding per 5 pieces of paper. It means I need
to translate my doubleside document for booklets of 5 papers.
I'm using the 2UP parameter in arranging but it just makes the book of one
booklet. How do I split it?
Thank you.

lukas

-- 
Lukas Kubin
lukas.kubin@permonik.com
phone: 00420603836180

Re: more folds to bind a book

[Willi Egger]

Hi Lukas,

> I need to print a book for binding per 5 pieces of paper. It means I need
> to translate my doubleside document for booklets of 5 papers.
> I'm using the 2UP parameter in arranging but it just makes the book of one
> booklet. How do I split it?
> Thank you.
>
> lukas

With the current possibilities within CONTEXT you can not print 5 times 4
pages per sheet i.e. sections of 20 pages. - You will have to develop this
scheme yourself. - Please have a look at the file page-imp.tex. There are
already quite a number of page imposition schemes. - Is there a specific
reason to make sections of 20 pages? - In general one would prefere to make
sections of 16 or 32 pages. The latter impositions schemes are already in
place.

When I developped some of them, I was advised to put such new definitions in
the file cont-new.tex, because this file is always loaded.

Willi

Re: more folds to bind a book

[Hans Hagen]

At 08:03 PM 2/2/2002 +0100, Willi Egger wrote:
>Hi Lukas,
>
> > I need to print a book for binding per 5 pieces of paper. It means I need
> > to translate my doubleside document for booklets of 5 papers.
> > I'm using the 2UP parameter in arranging but it just makes the book of one
> > booklet. How do I split it?
> > Thank you.
> >
> > lukas
>
>With the current possibilities within CONTEXT you can not print 5 times 4
>pages per sheet i.e. sections of 20 pages. - You will have to develop this
>scheme yourself. - Please have a look at the file page-imp.tex. There are
>already quite a number of page imposition schemes. - Is there a specific
>reason to make sections of 20 pages? - In general one would prefere to make
>sections of 16 or 32 pages. The latter impositions schemes are already in
>place.
>
>When I developped some of them, I was advised to put such new definitions in
>the file cont-new.tex, because this file is always loaded.

if new ones are needed, i suggest that the two of you work them out (willy: 
i suppose that you took a look in the imposition module, i cleaned up the 
spec format, should be more compact now]

Hans

PS. Willy and i have plans to write an imposition manual later this year.
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Re: more folds to bind a book

[Lukas Kubin]

Can someone, please, give me a better description of how to process the
document for booklets per 4 sheets? (or how to implement the suggested)

Thank you.

lukas

On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Willi Egger wrote:

> Hi Lukas,
>
> > I need to print a book for binding per 5 pieces of paper. It means I need
> > to translate my doubleside document for booklets of 5 papers.
> > I'm using the 2UP parameter in arranging but it just makes the book of one
> > booklet. How do I split it?
> > Thank you.
> >
> > lukas
>
> With the current possibilities within CONTEXT you can not print 5 times 4
> pages per sheet i.e. sections of 20 pages. - You will have to develop this
> scheme yourself. - Please have a look at the file page-imp.tex. There are
> already quite a number of page imposition schemes. - Is there a specific
> reason to make sections of 20 pages? - In general one would prefere to make
> sections of 16 or 32 pages. The latter impositions schemes are already in
> place.
>
> When I developped some of them, I was advised to put such new definitions in
> the file cont-new.tex, because this file is always loaded.
>
> Willi
>

-- 
Lukas Kubin
lukas.kubin@permonik.com
phone: 00420603836180

Re: more folds to bind a book

[Willi Egger]

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Hi Lukas,

Due to the fact, that I am a  user of CONTEXT during spare time,  it
is sometimes somewhat difficult to give immediate reactions....

As I understand your mail you intend to prepare 5 sections, each consisting
out of 4 sheets of paper each sheet of paper carrying 2 pages on both sides.
A section has 16 pages.

THIS IS NO PROBLEM! Context resolves that for you!

Please refer to the attached sample-file. After compilation you will have
two sample sections...

I hope this will be of help. Kind regards Willi

>I am typesetting a book of poems that should be sewed per about 4 sheets
>(16 pages = 2pages per side doublesided) for better reading. The book will
>be sewed of app. 5 such booklets. So I wish to have the sheets grouped at
>right papers for printing

> Can someone, please, give me a better description of how to process the
> document for booklets per 4 sheets? (or how to implement the suggested)
>
> Thank you.
>
> lukas
>
> On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Willi Egger wrote:
>
> > Hi Lukas,
> >
> > > I need to print a book for binding per 5 pieces of paper. It means I
need
> > > to translate my doubleside document for booklets of 5 papers.
> > > I'm using the 2UP parameter in arranging but it just makes the book of
one
> > > booklet. How do I split it?
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > lukas
> >
> > With the current possibilities within CONTEXT you can not print 5 times
4
> > pages per sheet i.e. sections of 20 pages. - You will have to develop
this
> > scheme yourself. - Please have a look at the file page-imp.tex. There
are
> > already quite a number of page imposition schemes. - Is there a specific
> > reason to make sections of 20 pages? - In general one would prefere to
make
> > sections of 16 or 32 pages. The latter impositions schemes are already
in
> > place.
> >
> > When I developped some of them, I was advised to put such new
definitions in
> > the file cont-new.tex, because this file is always loaded.
> >
> > Willi
> >
>
> --
> Lukas Kubin
> lukas.kubin@permonik.com
> phone: 00420603836180
>
>

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% Sample file to typset a book with sections consisting out of 4 sheets
% of paper. Each sheet carries 2 pages on both sides; thus each section
% contains 16 pages.
% Willi Egger, 04-02-2002

\setupoutput[pdftex]

\definepapersize[MyPaper][height=15cm, width=10cm]
\setuppapersize[MyPaper][A4]
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided, location={header,marginedge}]
\setuparranging[2*2*4,rotated,doublesided]%

%\setupbodyfont[ppl,12pt,ber]

\definetypeface[Myfont][rm][serif][palatino][default][encoding=texnansi]
\definetypeface[Myfont][mm][math] [palatino][default][encoding=tx8r]
\setupbodyfont[Myfont,11pt]

\setuptolerance[verytolerant,stretch]%Tip Hans Hagen 14-11-2001
\setuplayout[backspace=0.8cm,topspace=1.2cm,location=middle]
\setupbackgrounds[text][text][background=screen]

\starttext
\startalignment[middle]
\vfil
This is booklet 1 \par
sheet 1
\blank[big]
{\bfd 1}
\stopalignment
\vfil
\page

\startalignment[middle]
\vfil
This is \par
\blank[big]
{\bfd 2}
\stopalignment
\vfil
\page

\startalignment[middle]
\vfil
This is booklet 1 \par
sheet 2
\blank[big]
{\bfd 3}
\stopalignment
\vfil
\page

\startalignment[middle]
\vfil
This is \par
\blank[big]
{\bfd 4}
\stopalignment
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\page

\startalignment[middle]
\vfil
This is booklet 1 \par
sheet 3
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{\bfd 5}
\stopalignment
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\vfil
This is \par
\blank[big]
{\bfd 6}
\stopalignment
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\page

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\vfil
This is booklet 1 \par
sheet 4
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{\bfd 7}
\stopalignment
\vfil
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\vfil
This is \par
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\stopalignment
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\startalignment[middle]
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\stopalignment
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\startalignment[middle]
\vfil
This is \par
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\stopalignment
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{\bfd 11}
\stopalignment
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\vfil
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\stopalignment
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\vfil
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\stopalignment
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\vfil
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\stopalignment
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\vfil
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\stopalignment
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\vfil
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\stopalignment
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\vfil
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sheet 1
\blank[big]
{\bfd 17}
\stopalignment
\vfil
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\vfil
This is \par
\blank[big]
{\bfd 18}
\stopalignment
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\startalignment[middle]
\vfil
This is booklet 2\par
sheet 2
\blank[big]
{\bfd 19}
\stopalignment
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\startalignment[middle]
\vfil
This is \par
\blank[big]
{\bfd 20}
\stopalignment
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\vfil
This is booklet 2 \par
sheet 3
\blank[big]
{\bfd 21}
\stopalignment
\vfil
\page

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\vfil
This is \par
\blank[big]
{\bfd 22}
\stopalignment
\vfil
\page

\startalignment[middle]
\vfil
This is booklet 2 \par
sheet 4
\blank[big]
{\bfd 23}
\stopalignment
\vfil
\page

\startalignment[middle]
\vfil
This is \par
\blank[big]
{\bfd 24}
\stopalignment
\vfil
\page

\startalignment[middle]
\vfil
This is \par
\blank[big]
{\bfd 25}
\stopalignment
\vfil
\page

\startalignment[middle]
\vfil
This is \par
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{\bfd 26}
\stopalignment
\vfil
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\startalignment[middle]
\vfil
This is \par
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{\bfd 27}
\stopalignment
\vfil
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\vfil
This is \par
\blank[big]
{\bfd 28}
\stopalignment
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\vfil
This is \par
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{\bfd 29}
\stopalignment
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\vfil
This is \par
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\stopalignment
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\vfil
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Re: more folds to bind a book

[Lukas Kubin]

Hi Willi,
thank you very much for your help! The \setuparranging[2*2*4] looks
intuitively -- like something I could try before disturbing this list.
However your sample file (and my document as well) gives me a bad result
-- 1 page per side instead of 2. I am using ConTeXt 2.6. Don't you know
where the problem could be?
Thank you. I really appreciate your help.

lukas

On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Willi Egger wrote:

> Hi Lukas,
>
> Due to the fact, that I am a  user of CONTEXT during spare time,  it
> is sometimes somewhat difficult to give immediate reactions....
>
> As I understand your mail you intend to prepare 5 sections, each consisting
> out of 4 sheets of paper each sheet of paper carrying 2 pages on both sides.
> A section has 16 pages.
>
> THIS IS NO PROBLEM! Context resolves that for you!
>
> Please refer to the attached sample-file. After compilation you will have
> two sample sections...
>
> I hope this will be of help. Kind regards Willi
>
>
>
> >I am typesetting a book of poems that should be sewed per about 4 sheets
> >(16 pages = 2pages per side doublesided) for better reading. The book will
> >be sewed of app. 5 such booklets. So I wish to have the sheets grouped at
> >right papers for printing
>
> > Can someone, please, give me a better description of how to process the
> > document for booklets per 4 sheets? (or how to implement the suggested)
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > lukas
> >
> > On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Willi Egger wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Lukas,
> > >
> > > > I need to print a book for binding per 5 pieces of paper. It means I
> need
> > > > to translate my doubleside document for booklets of 5 papers.
> > > > I'm using the 2UP parameter in arranging but it just makes the book of
> one
> > > > booklet. How do I split it?
> > > > Thank you.
> > > >
> > > > lukas
> > >
> > > With the current possibilities within CONTEXT you can not print 5 times
> 4
> > > pages per sheet i.e. sections of 20 pages. - You will have to develop
> this
> > > scheme yourself. - Please have a look at the file page-imp.tex. There
> are
> > > already quite a number of page imposition schemes. - Is there a specific
> > > reason to make sections of 20 pages? - In general one would prefere to
> make
> > > sections of 16 or 32 pages. The latter impositions schemes are already
> in
> > > place.
> > >
> > > When I developped some of them, I was advised to put such new
> definitions in
> > > the file cont-new.tex, because this file is always loaded.
> > >
> > > Willi
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Lukas Kubin
> > lukas.kubin@permonik.com
> > phone: 00420603836180
> >
> >
>
>

-- 
Lukas Kubin
lukas.kubin@permonik.com
phone: 00420603836180

Re: more folds to bind a book

[Lukas Kubin]

Could someone, please describe me how to process the document for booklets
per 4 sheets? I don't know how to implement the suggested (below).
Thank you.

lukas

On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Willi Egger wrote:

> Hi Lukas,
>
> > I need to print a book for binding per 5 pieces of paper. It means I need
> > to translate my doubleside document for booklets of 5 papers.
> > I'm using the 2UP parameter in arranging but it just makes the book of one
> > booklet. How do I split it?
> > Thank you.
> >
> > lukas
>
> With the current possibilities within CONTEXT you can not print 5 times 4
> pages per sheet i.e. sections of 20 pages. - You will have to develop this
> scheme yourself. - Please have a look at the file page-imp.tex. There are
> already quite a number of page imposition schemes. - Is there a specific
> reason to make sections of 20 pages? - In general one would prefere to make
> sections of 16 or 32 pages. The latter impositions schemes are already in
> place.
>
> When I developped some of them, I was advised to put such new definitions in
> the file cont-new.tex, because this file is always loaded.
>
> Willi
>

-- 
Lukas Kubin
lukas.kubin@permonik.com
phone: 00420603836180

Re: more folds to bind a book

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am Freitag, 1. Februar 2002 19:54 schrieb Lukas Kubin:
> I need to print a book for binding per 5 pieces of paper. It means I need
> to translate my doubleside document for booklets of 5 papers.
> I'm using the 2UP parameter in arranging but it just makes the book of one
> booklet. How do I split it?

RTM: mtexexec.pdf

I didn't try if you can use --pdfselect and --pdfarrange at the same time.
If not, you must first extract the pages for every folding sheet and 
afterwards arrange (impose) it.

Grüßlis vom Hraban!