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From: "Thomas Floeren" <thomas.floeren@boschung.com>
To: "'mailing list for ConTeXt users'" <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: Hyphenation list and umlauts
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 08:10:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <003001ca005b$f5634cb0$8614a8c0@boschung.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a09128560907082155m223308efmb8ef0ac827b08586@mail.gmail.com>

 
Hi Lutz,

Thanks for your answer.
According to my (reformed) Duden both manöv-rieren and manö-vrieren are correct (in prereform orthography manöv-rieren was not allowed); see also ei-nan-der|ein-an-der, in-te-res-sant|in-ter-es-sant etc.

But this is not the problem. You can try any other arbitrary example: 

\de 
\hyphenation{fräs-schleu-der schmutz-be-häl-ter-was-ser-stands-alarm} 
\starttext 
\hyphenatedword{Frässchleuder} 
\hyphenatedword{Schmutzbehälterwasserstandsalarm}
\stoptext 


Greetings
Thomas


________________________________

From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl [mailto:ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl] On Behalf Of Lutz Haseloff
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 6:55 AM
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation list and umlauts


Hi Thomas,

after changing lefthyphenmin for de in lang-ger.tex to "2" I was able to hyphenate your word
after the Duden rules ma-nö-vrie-ren. I think, in german "v" can't be a syllable.

Greetings Lutz

see: http://www.duden.de/definition/man%C3%B6vrieren




2009/7/8 <thomas.floeren@mac.com>



	On Jul 8, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Peter Rolf wrote:


		Thomas Floeren schrieb: 

			Taco Hoekwater <mailto:taco@elvenkind.com> <mailto:taco@elvenkind.com>  scribbled on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:34 PM:
			
			  

				Thomas Floeren wrote:
				    

					Hi,
					
					I stumbled upon a problem with my hyphenation list:
					
					In MKIV, all the words in the list that contain umlauts are
					completely ignored. MKII is fine. 
					      

				Luatex 0.40.5 is broken in this regard, sorry.
				
				(The problem is that the exception handling uses \lccodes
				for the *byte* range 128-255, which is quite wrong). This is
				serious enough that there will be a 0.40.6 later in the week.
				
				Best wishes,
				Taco
				    

			Well, in my other mail I said that it worked perfectly now with 0.40.6, but this isn’t entirely true:
			
			It works perfectly on Mac, Linux and Win Vista. But for any obscure reason I can not get it to work on Win XP (to which I’m bound at work, unfortunately).
			
			Linux and WinVista are running as virtual machines on Mac Intel systems, WinXP is running nonvirtually on PC. 
			
			In order to minimize installation differences I have even copied the entire context folder from Vista to the XP machine (including binaries, minimals, texmf-local), trashed the caches, remade the formats ... but still no UTF hyphenation exceptions on the XP-PC.
			
			Do you - or anybody - have an idea of what the reason for this could be?
			Some stupid small thing that I have overlooked?
			  

		Just tried your example code and I also get wrong hyphenation on XP.
		
		This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.40.6-2009070100 (Web2C 2009) luatex.web >= v13958
		MTXrun | current version: 2009.06.14 21:01
		
		Sorry, also no clue what goes wrong...
		
		

							Maybe I should pose my question differently:
	Is there anybody on WinXP who can typeset my minimal (below) as intended?

	(I’m aware that not many people on this list are using MS systems, I personally also prefer working systems, but at work I’m (still) restricted to MS-XP.
	So this problem is of uttermost importance for me. 
	I hope the ConTeXt support for MS systems will not be dropped too soon, there are still people out there dependent on those OSs)

	Here’s the minimal again:

	\de 
	\hyphenation{ma-nö-v-rie-ren} 
	\starttext 
	\hyphenatedword{manövrieren} 
	\stoptext 

	Thanks again for any help or hint
	Tom
	
	

			Any help is appreciated
			Thanks
			
			Thomas
			
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  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-09  6:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-24 13:28 Thomas Floeren
2009-06-24 13:33 ` Taco Hoekwater
2009-06-27 20:53   ` Thomas Floeren
2009-07-08 10:15   ` Thomas Floeren
2009-07-08 10:25     ` Taco Hoekwater
2009-07-08 11:06     ` Peter Rolf
2009-07-08 18:22       ` tomfloeren
2009-07-08 18:37       ` thomas.floeren
2009-07-09  4:55         ` Lutz Haseloff
2009-07-09  6:10           ` Thomas Floeren [this message]
2009-07-09  6:29             ` Lutz Haseloff
2009-07-09  6:39               ` Taco Hoekwater
2009-07-09  7:43                 ` Thomas Floeren
2009-07-09  8:48                 ` Lutz Haseloff
2009-07-09 10:56                   ` Peter Rolf
2009-07-10  5:32                 ` Thomas Floeren
2009-07-10  6:33                   ` Taco Hoekwater
2009-07-10  9:21                   ` Mojca Miklavec
2009-07-10 16:51                     ` tomfloeren
2009-07-16  6:55                     ` Thomas Floeren

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