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* Context equivalent to \kern-1pt
@ 2000-11-18  9:58 Maarten Wisse
  2000-11-18 11:17 ` siepo
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  0 siblings, 3 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Maarten Wisse @ 2000-11-18  9:58 UTC (permalink / raw)


Hi all,

Still working on the birth announcement. I tried to do some manual kerning 
tweaking on some of the characters, and I used \kern to achieve this. 
However, this low level command seems (I quite sure about that) to influence 
the allignment of the paragraph, which is centered by 
\steluitlijnenin[midden] in the preamble.
So, my question is easy: is there a high level command in ConTeXt which does 
manaual kerning and doesn't affect allignment?
Thanks for your comments,

Maarten Wisse

P.S. Just a note which might be interesting for ConTeXt users. Hans uses 
Lucida fonts quite frequently, but they are not free. Now, in XFree86 4.0, 
the new version of Windows which is used on Linux distributions, Y&Y has 
freely provided a font called Lucidux which is a clone of Lucida. Make tfm 
and vf out of that, and you have at least Lucida, Lucida Bright and Lucida 
Sans. Nice for presentations for instance. Just change the presentation 
style file to Lucidux and it's fixed.
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* Re: Context equivalent to \kern-1pt
  2000-11-18  9:58 Context equivalent to \kern-1pt Maarten Wisse
@ 2000-11-18 11:17 ` siepo
  2000-11-21 16:16   ` Lucida Bright fonts (was Re: Context equivalent to \kern-1pt) Christopher Tipper
  2000-11-19 15:33 ` Context equivalent to \kern-1pt Hans Hagen
  2000-12-13 15:04 ` Uwe Koloska
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: siepo @ 2000-11-18 11:17 UTC (permalink / raw)


On 18 Nov, Maarten Wisse wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Still working on the birth announcement. I tried to do some manual
> kerning tweaking on some of the characters, and I used \kern to
> achieve this. However, this low level command seems (I quite sure
> about that) to influence the allignment of the paragraph, which is
> centered by
> \steluitlijnenin[midden] in the preamble.
> So, my question is easy: is there a high level command in ConTeXt
> which does manaual kerning and doesn't affect allignment? Thanks for
> your comments,
> 
> 
> Maarten Wisse
> 
> P.S. Just a note which might be interesting for ConTeXt users. Hans
> uses Lucida fonts quite frequently, but they are not free. Now, in
> XFree86 4.0, the new version of Windows which is used on Linux
> distributions, Y&Y has freely provided a font called Lucidux which is
> a clone of Lucida. Make tfm and vf out of that, and you have at least
> Lucida, Lucida Bright and Lucida Sans. Nice for presentations for
> instance. Just change the presentation style file to Lucidux and it's
> fixed.

The Type1 versions of the Lucida fonts come with StarOffice 5.2, which
is free.

Siep 


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* Re: Context equivalent to \kern-1pt
  2000-11-18  9:58 Context equivalent to \kern-1pt Maarten Wisse
  2000-11-18 11:17 ` siepo
@ 2000-11-19 15:33 ` Hans Hagen
  2000-12-13 10:46   ` Balazs Nagy
  2000-12-13 15:04 ` Uwe Koloska
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2000-11-19 15:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: ntg-context

At 09:58 AM 11/18/00 GMT, Maarten Wisse wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>Still working on the birth announcement. I tried to do some manual kerning 
>tweaking on some of the characters, and I used \kern to achieve this. 
>However, this low level command seems (I quite sure about that) to influence 
>the allignment of the paragraph, which is centered by 
>\steluitlijnenin[midden] in the preamble.
>So, my question is easy: is there a high level command in ConTeXt which does 
>manaual kerning and doesn't affect allignment?
>Thanks for your comments,

Kern can be horizontal as well as vertical, so it depends a bit. Can you
give a simple example of how you are using it [given that the baby is not
yet born]? 

>P.S. Just a note which might be interesting for ConTeXt users. Hans uses 
>Lucida fonts quite frequently, but they are not free. Now, in XFree86 4.0, 
>the new version of Windows which is used on Linux distributions, Y&Y has 
>freely provided a font called Lucidux which is a clone of Lucida. Make tfm 
>and vf out of that, and you have at least Lucida, Lucida Bright and Lucida 
>Sans. Nice for presentations for instance. Just change the presentation 
>style file to Lucidux and it's fixed.

Interesting. We need to look into that. The best way to handle this is 

\definefontsynonym [LucidaBright] [Lucidux] 

or whatever the names are, so, what are the names of the files? 

Hans
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* Lucida Bright fonts (was Re: Context equivalent to \kern-1pt)
  2000-11-18 11:17 ` siepo
@ 2000-11-21 16:16   ` Christopher Tipper
  2000-11-21 18:45     ` Lucida Bright fonts Christopher Tipper
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Christopher Tipper @ 2000-11-21 16:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: ntg-context

> > Maarten Wisse
> > 
> > P.S. Just a note which might be interesting for ConTeXt users. Hans
> > uses Lucida fonts quite frequently, but they are not free. Now, in
> > XFree86 4.0, the new version of Windows which is used on Linux
> > distributions, Y&Y has freely provided a font called Lucidux which is
> > a clone of Lucida. Make tfm and vf out of that, and you have at least
> > Lucida, Lucida Bright and Lucida Sans. Nice for presentations for
> > instance. Just change the presentation style file to Lucidux and it's
> > fixed.
> 
> The Type1 versions of the Lucida fonts come with StarOffice 5.2, which
> is free.
> 
> Siep 

I've taken about 8 minutes looking at this issue with StarOffice 5.2 on windows, and it's not quite true. Certainly when I distill documents, Lucida comes out in native Type 1 in the output pdf's, but further investigation suggests that they start life as TrueType .ttf files, which of course lack ligatures and proper font-hinting. From what I can gather, StarOffice relies heavily on the JRE, which seems to have a bunch of classes to convert TrueType to Type1 "on-the-fly". Maybe somebody could correct me on this? Maybe different on Unices?

Christopher


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* Re: Lucida Bright fonts
  2000-11-21 16:16   ` Lucida Bright fonts (was Re: Context equivalent to \kern-1pt) Christopher Tipper
@ 2000-11-21 18:45     ` Christopher Tipper
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Christopher Tipper @ 2000-11-21 18:45 UTC (permalink / raw)


A case of wishful thinking I think. Lucida Bright .pfb's are _not_ distributed with StarOffice 5.2 on windows. Another reason to decamp to Linux? :-)

Christopher


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* Re: Context equivalent to \kern-1pt
  2000-11-19 15:33 ` Context equivalent to \kern-1pt Hans Hagen
@ 2000-12-13 10:46   ` Balazs Nagy
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Balazs Nagy @ 2000-12-13 10:46 UTC (permalink / raw)


On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 04:33:17PM +0100, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>
> At 09:58 AM 11/18/00 GMT, Maarten Wisse wrote:
> >
> >P.S. Just a note which might be interesting for ConTeXt users. Hans uses 
> >Lucida fonts quite frequently, but they are not free. Now, in XFree86 4.0, 
> >the new version of Windows which is used on Linux distributions, Y&Y has 
> >freely provided a font called Lucidux which is a clone of Lucida. Make tfm 
> >and vf out of that, and you have at least Lucida, Lucida Bright and Lucida 
> >Sans. Nice for presentations for instance. Just change the presentation 
> >style file to Lucidux and it's fixed.
> 
> Interesting. We need to look into that. The best way to handle this is 
> 
> \definefontsynonym [LucidaBright] [Lucidux] 
> 
> or whatever the names are, so, what are the names of the files? 

file        font name

lcdxmo.pfa  LuciduxMono-Oblique
lcdxmr.pfa  LuciduxMono
lcdxro.pfa  LuciduxSerif-Oblique
lcdxrr.pfa  LuciduxSerif
lcdxso.pfa  LuciduxSans-Oblique
lcdxsr.pfa  LuciduxSans
-- 
Nagy Balazs, LSC
http://www.lsc.hu/


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* Re: Context equivalent to \kern-1pt
  2000-11-18  9:58 Context equivalent to \kern-1pt Maarten Wisse
  2000-11-18 11:17 ` siepo
  2000-11-19 15:33 ` Context equivalent to \kern-1pt Hans Hagen
@ 2000-12-13 15:04 ` Uwe Koloska
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Uwe Koloska @ 2000-12-13 15:04 UTC (permalink / raw)


Maarten wrote on Samstag, 18. November 2000 10:58:

>P.S. Just a note which might be interesting for ConTeXt users. Hans uses
>Lucida fonts quite frequently, but they are not free. Now, in XFree86 4.0,
>the new version of Windows which is used on Linux distributions, Y&Y has
>freely provided a font called Lucidux which is a clone of Lucida. Make tfm
>and vf out of that, and you have at least Lucida, Lucida Bright and Lucida
>Sans. Nice for presentations for instance. Just change the presentation
>style file to Lucidux and it's fixed.

Unfortunately this fonts have some gaps.  Especially the german quotes are 
not there.  But there are other versions of Lucida family freely available.

StarOffice 5.2 (5.1?) comes with a great load of them.  And in the "West" 
variants also the german quotes are present.  Maybe it is possible to make 
a patchwork font with the help of virtual fonts.

Uwe

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but this will change as time goes by ;-)


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* Re: Lucida Bright fonts
       [not found]       ` <3CC0CC3C.7218C29C@gcmail.maricopa.edu>
@ 2002-04-20 23:24         ` Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2002-04-20 23:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: ntg-context

At 07:02 PM 4/19/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Hans,
>
>I already have afm, tfm files and such located in C:\localtexmf\fonts//. 
>Will this
>command over-write these files?

no, because i use more meaningful names, like texnansi-lbr and alike

Hans

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* Re: Lucida Bright fonts
       [not found]   ` <3CBE43E9.7565CE19@gcmail.maricopa.edu>
@ 2002-04-18  7:36     ` Hans Hagen
       [not found]       ` <3CC0CC3C.7218C29C@gcmail.maricopa.edu>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2002-04-18  7:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: ntg-context

At 08:56 PM 4/17/2002 -0700, walter.kehowski@gcmail.maricopa.edu wrote:
>Hans,
>
>Is there a problem in general with Lucida Bright fonts in ConTeXt right now or
>is it just a problem with my MiKTeX 2.1/ConTeXt-2001.11.13/Win2K setup? I
>would like to start playing and having fun with ConTeXt but only if I can get
>my beloved Lucida Bright fonts working.

No problem with lucida, you only need to set them up,

given that you have yoru lucida fonts organized in .../bh/lucida/... paths:

   texfont type-buy.dat --en=texnansi --ve=bh --co=lucida

will generate metrics and a test file; this file should run (not sure if 
miktex needs another treatment)

if you now set your defaultencoding to texnansi 
(\setupencoding[default=texnansi]) it should work

Hans

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                       Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
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* Re: lucida bright fonts
  2002-04-16  1:33 ` lucida bright fonts walter a kehowski
@ 2002-04-16 10:39   ` Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2002-04-16 10:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: ntg-context

At 06:33 PM 4/15/2002 -0700, walter a kehowski wrote:

>(C:\Program Files\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-exa.tex))
>! Font \*12ptrmtf*=LucidaBright at 12.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file
>not f
>ound.
>\lastfontname ...idaBright at \scaledfont
>
>\donoparsefontspec ...sname \lastfontname
>                                           \relax \the \everyfont \relax
>
>\xxdododefinefont ...2}\newfontidentifier
>                                           \doresetrelativefontsize \f...
>\fontstrategy ...ame #2#3#4#5#6\endcsname
>                                           \let \fontstrategy \gobbles...
><inserted text> ...talternative \fontsize
>                                           \fontstrategy \autofontsize...
>\synchronizefont ... \the \fontstrategies
>                                           \ifskipfontcharacteristics ...
>...
>l.6 \setupbodyfont[lbr]

does

   [ber,lbr]

work? [i.e. berry names]

it looks like the SymbolicName onto filename mapping is missing.

alternatively you can use texfont to generate the lbr-texnansi alike tfm 
files and specify \setupencoding[default=texnansi]

Hans
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                       Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
  tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
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* lucida bright fonts
  2002-04-16  0:04 FLOWchart: colored connections and other styles John Culleton
@ 2002-04-16  1:33 ` walter a kehowski
  2002-04-16 10:39   ` Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: walter a kehowski @ 2002-04-16  1:33 UTC (permalink / raw)


I have the Lucida Bright fonts installed and they work just fine with MiKTeX/yap/dvips/reader.
However, once I tried to use them with context I get the error message below.
What is the problem? How can I get context to recognize the fonts?

I've already checked the archive and there seemed to be no resolution posted
to a similar problem.

Walter Kehowski

%%% log file
This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-14f-released-20000525-2.1 (MiKTeX 2.1)
(preloaded format=cont-en 2002.4.14)  15 APR 2002 18:25
entering extended mode
**fonts-lbr
(fonts-lbr.tex{pdftex.cfg}

ConTeXt  ver: 2001.11.13  fmt: 2002.4.14  int: english  mes: english

language       : language en is active
system         : cont-new loaded
(C:\Program Files\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\cont-new.tex
systems        : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex!
system (E-TEX) : [line 473] \ifcsname 
)
system         : cont-old loaded
(C:\Program Files\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\cont-old.tex
loading        : Context Old Macros
)
system         : cont-fil loaded
(C:\Program Files\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\cont-fil.tex
loading        : Context File Synonyms
)
bodyfont       : 12pt rm is loaded
language       : patterns 2-en-2 2-uk-2 2-de-2 2-fr-2 2-es-2 2-nl-2 loaded
specials       : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded
(C:\Program Files\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-pre.tex
typescript     : [serif,sans,mono,math,handwriting] [lucida] [name,special,defa
ult]
(C:\Program Files\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-syn.tex)
(C:\Program Files\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-enc.tex)
(C:\Program Files\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-siz.tex)
(C:\Program Files\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-map.tex)
(C:\Program Files\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-spe.tex
(C:\Program Files\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\math-lbr.tex))
(C:\Program Files\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-exa.tex)
typescript     : [serif,sans,mono,math,handwriting] [default] [size]
(C:\Program Files\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-syn.tex)
(C:\Program Files\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-enc.tex)
(C:\Program Files\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-siz.tex)
(C:\Program Files\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-map.tex)
(C:\Program Files\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-spe.tex)
(C:\Program Files\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-exa.tex)
typescript     : [map] [default] []
(C:\Program Files\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-syn.tex)
(C:\Program Files\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-enc.tex)
(C:\Program Files\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-siz.tex)
(C:\Program Files\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-map.tex
pdftex         : needs map file: original-ams-cmr.map
pdftex         : needs map file: original-ams-euler.map
pdftex         : needs map file: original-ams-logo.map
pdftex         : needs map file: original-micropress-informal.map
) (C:\Program Files\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-spe.tex)
(C:\Program Files\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\type-exa.tex))
! Font \*12ptrmtf*=LucidaBright at 12.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file
not f
ound.
\lastfontname ...idaBright at \scaledfont 

\donoparsefontspec ...sname \lastfontname 
                                          \relax \the \everyfont \relax

\xxdododefinefont ...2}\newfontidentifier 
                                          \doresetrelativefontsize \f...
\fontstrategy ...ame #2#3#4#5#6\endcsname 
                                          \let \fontstrategy \gobbles...
<inserted text> ...talternative \fontsize 
                                          \fontstrategy \autofontsize...
\synchronizefont ... \the \fontstrategies 
                                          \ifskipfontcharacteristics ...
...
l.6 \setupbodyfont[lbr]

? X
No pages of output.


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