From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/3975 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Giuseppe Bilotta" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Footnote placement problems Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 23:43:35 +0100 Sender: owner-ntg-context@let.uu.nl Message-ID: <006501c08fc5$15350760$a3ccfea9@nuovo> References: <3.0.6.32.20010205101753.01c2de20@server-1> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035394675 21789 80.91.224.250 (23 Oct 2002 17:37:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 17:37:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "ConTeXt" Original-To: "Hans Hagen" Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:3975 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:3975 Well, I must say that (b) [text on notes] happens in normal cases (no nested footnotes, no notes in objects, etc); (a) doesn't actually happen very often, but I recently had (b) happening (solved by putting a \page[preference] before a heading, thus moving heading and following text to next page). Giuseppe Bilotta Using Microsoft products is like having sex without condoms---but much less pleasurable ----- Original Message ----- From: Hans Hagen To: Giuseppe Bilotta Cc: ConTeXt Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 10:17 AM Subject: Re: Footnote placement problems > At 04:14 PM 2/4/01 +0100, Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: > >Hello, > > > >sometimes, especially when using *lots* of footnotes, some problems happen; > >mostly > > > >(a) footnote text goes on the wrong page (next); > >(b) text overwrites footnotes; > > > >I believe that in such cases, rather than letting these things happen, > ConTeXt > >should try as hard as possible to prevent them, even at the cost of heavily > >underfull pages (signaled) [from my poor debugging I belive (b) happens when > >ConTeXt attemps an *overfull* page to prevent (a)]. I know that footnote > >handling is *extremely* difficult, but I think these problems should be > issued > >as best as possible. > > > >While browsing throught the core-not.tex code I found the reference to > >\footnotelimit; if I understood correctly what it means, this should be > set to > >*false* to solve the two problems, when they arise. Am I correct? > > I'm working on some new otr macros, so part of it can be covered. The > problem with 'moving' footnotes is partly due to the fact that deeply > burried footnotes are not seen by tex and thereby are not taken into > account by page break calculations. So, postponed notes are dangerous ones, > which is why in for instance tables, i use local notes and attach them to > the table (or fig). > > Hans > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >