From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/13428 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Willi Egger" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Again: How to make empty pages by default empty? Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:16:01 +0200 Organization: BOEDE Sender: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Message-ID: <00b301c38137$2a6851d0$0100a8c0@vademecum> References: Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1064255630 19817 80.91.224.253 (22 Sep 2003 18:33:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:33:50 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Mon Sep 22 20:33:49 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from ref.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.13] helo=ref.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A1VVN-0000sI-00 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:33:49 +0200 Original-Received: from ref.ntg.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65A410B49; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:33:39 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from smtpzilla1.xs4all.nl (smtpzilla1.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.137]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF2B10B2B for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:27:24 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from vademecum (a80-126-172-1.adsl.xs4all.nl [80.126.172.1]) by smtpzilla1.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h8MIRN4h046402 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:27:23 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Errors-To: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:13428 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:13428 Hi Steffen, From: "Steffen Wolfrum" Subject: [NTG-context] Again: How to make empty pages by default empty? > > > So I don't have to post so many (unanswered) questions any more... > > > > Posting ConTeXt questions is fun, so don't stop doing this. > > > > > > Patrick > > > > Alright! So maybe I am also allowed to send again > one of my favorite problems from last week? > > Still unanswered. Still unsolved. Very interesting! > > To whom it may concern - don't hesitate to post an answer... > > Thank you all, > Steffen > > > > Hans Hagen wrote: > > > At 10:05 19/09/2003 +0200, you wrote: > > >Hi Steffen, > > > > > > > > > > \definepagebreak > > > > [chapter] > > > > [yes,header,right] > > > > \definepagebreak > > [chapter] > > [empty,header,right] > > > Sorry, but that doesn't work. > > When changed the minimal example to... > > \definepagebreak > [chapter] > [empty,header,right] > > \setuphead > [chapter] > [page=chapter,] > > \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided] > > \starttext > \startfrontmatter > \completecontent > \stopfrontmatter > \startbodymatter > \chapter {test} \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte } > \chapter {test} \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte } > \chapter {test} \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte } > \stopbodymatter > > \stoptext > > > ... we have page numbers on (empty) page number 4, 18 and 19! > > Plus there are two strange empty empty pages before the TOC?! If you want to get a doublesided tzpeset document you should add also \setuplayout[location=doublesided]. I am not shure, whether the following is correct! Empty pages at the beginning: You start the frontmatters with the \completecontent. - I could imagine that this is a consequence of the fact that the TOC starts always on a righthand page. - Thus at the moment of \startbodymatter tex is already on the first page. But after identifying the \completecontents command will create two page breaks in order to be able to typeset the TOC on a righthand page. Pagenumbers on empty pages before starting a new chapter Chapters begin on a right hand page. If the lefthand page is empty, there is correctly still the pagenumber. I do not know whether it is possible to check whether the page before a new chapter is completely empty. What one should fetch is this information just before shipping this page. What you can do is to use the \setuphead command. Either use page=no then the next chapter will start immediately or say page=yes and the next chapter will start on the following page which might be a left- or righthand page. Willi