pictures in columns

pictures in columns

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Seems to be impossible, what I'd like to get:
-- picture beside text in a two-column environment
-- picture sitting on the grid

I tried:
\useexternalfigure[pic][mypic][maxwidth=.5\textwidth] % ok
\placeongrid[bottom]{\placefigure[right][somewhat]{none}{\externalfigure[pic]}}

The picture is always centered in the column and centered between some lines, 
text below.

Is there a solution?

Re: pictures in columns

[Hans Hagen]

At 06:03 PM 2/18/2002 +0100, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
>Seems to be impossible, what I'd like to get:
>-- picture beside text in a two-column environment
>-- picture sitting on the grid
>
>I tried:
>\useexternalfigure[pic][mypic][maxwidth=.5\textwidth] % ok
>\placeongrid[bottom]{\placefigure[right][somewhat]{none}{\externalfigure[pic]}}
>
>The picture is always centered in the column and centered between some lines,
>text below.
>
>Is there a solution?

i'm in the process of adding more grid control (section header already done).

in your case: look at column sets (in a next release there will be things 
like free standing graphics, bleeding control, absolute col/cell 
positioning and other things dtp-ers like you will love; working on that now)

\definecolumnset
   [main][n=5,distance=.5cm]

\setuppapersize
   [A2][A2]

\setuplayout
   [topspace=3cm,
    backspace=3cm,
    header=1.5cm,
    footer=1.5cm,
    height=middle,
    width=middle]

\setupbodyfont
   [10pt] % ,ppl]

\starttext

\definecolumntextarea   [zero][right][x=1,y=1,nx=5,ny=15,state=start]
\setupcolumntextareatext[zero][right][\WidthSpanningText{Hasselt 
750}{\hsize}{RegularBold}]

\definecolumntextarea   [one][right][x=1,y=45,nx=5,ny=15,state=start]
\setupcolumntextareatext[one][right][{\externalfigure[hass23g][width=\hsize,height=\vsize]}]

\definecolumntextarea   [two][right][x=2,y=42,nx=2,ny=10,state=start]
\setupcolumntextareatext[two][right][{\externalfigure[hakker1b][width=\hsize,height=\vsize]}]

\definecolumntextarea   [three][right][x=4,y=55,nx=1,ny=10,state=start]
\setupcolumntextareatext[three][right][{\externalfigure[hakker1b][width=\hsize,height=\vsize]}]

\setupheader[state=high]

\startcolumnset[main]

\dorecurse{100}{\input tufte \par}

\stopcolumnset

\stoptext

guess what happens in a double sided layout with nx > 5

actually, if you want you can play with different column widths (an old 
wish of yours if i remember right)
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Re: pictures in columns

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Thank you, it works! (Couldn't believe it...)

I'll sell ConTeXt as newspaper layout processor... ;-)

> \definecolumntextarea   [zero][right][x=1,y=1,nx=5,ny=15,state=start]
> \setupcolumntextareatext[zero][right][\WidthSpanningText{Hasselt
> 750}{\hsize}{RegularBold}]

Next I'll try to use that for longer texts...

> \definecolumntextarea   [one][right][x=1,y=45,nx=5,ny=15,state=start]
> \setupcolumntextareatext[one][right][{\externalfigure[hass23g][width=\hsize
>,height=\vsize]}]

...for I need it the other way: not pictures spanning several columns, but
parts of columns. 

> guess what happens in a double sided layout with nx > 5

Can't see a special effect. Hints?

> actually, if you want you can play with different column widths (an old
> wish of yours if i remember right)

Ok, i defined a columntextarea and filled it with a buffered text.
I don't understand why the text gets center aligned. And it's not in the grid.

It would be nice if one could change the columnset in the middle of the page,
say I've a five-column-set and a four-column-set... (Like with start/stop 
columns)

(I fear you must help me a bit when we meet in Erlangen...)

Grüßlis vom Hraban!

Re: pictures in columns

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

>...for I need it the other way: not pictures spanning several columns, but
>parts of columns.

working on that

in the meantime try:

\placefloat[btrl]{}{}

and things like tbrl (top-bottom,right-left flush) or specify columns with 
tblr:3

> > guess what happens in a double sided layout with nx > 5
>
>Can't see a special effect. Hints?

hm, should span columns (both instead of right) and clip accordingly

> > actually, if you want you can play with different column widths (an old
> > wish of yours if i remember right)
>
>Ok, i defined a columntextarea and filled it with a buffered text.
>I don't understand why the text gets center aligned. And it's not in the grid.

working on that too, kind of tricky (i'll show you an example in erlangen)

>It would be nice if one could change the columnset in the middle of the page,
>say I've a five-column-set and a four-column-set... (Like with start/stop
>columns)

on the agenda, actually, one can do things like:

\startcolumnset[alpha,beta,gamma] and they will change at page boundaries 
(think of a paper with a different layout on the first and next pages)

>(I fear you must help me a bit when we meet in Erlangen...)

ok

Hans
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Re: pictures in columns

[Dan Seracu]

Hello!

For me, it did not worked out!

It generates the error:
! No room for a new \box .
\ch@ck ...rrmessage {No room for a new #3}
                                          \fi
\alloc@ ... \count 1#1by\@ne \ch@ck #1#4#2
                                          \allocationnumber =\count 1...
\@@arecurse2 ...:\recurselevel \endcsname
                                          \else \global \setbox \csna...
\redostepwiserecurse ...edepth \endcsname
                                          \dodostepwiserecurse
<to be read again>
                   {
<inserted text>
                70
...
l.36

The format is the latest format:
This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14d (MiKTeX 1.20e) (preloaded format=cont-en
2002.2.21)  21 FEB 2002 09:49
**&cont-en newsletter
(newsletter.tex{pdftex.cfg}

ConTeXt  ver: 2001.11.13  fmt: 2002.2.21  int: english  mes: english

Any hints?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Henning Hraban Ramm" <angerweit@gmx.net>
To: <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: pictures in columns

> Thank you, it works! (Couldn't believe it...)
>
> I'll sell ConTeXt as newspaper layout processor... ;-)
>
> > \definecolumntextarea   [zero][right][x=1,y=1,nx=5,ny=15,state=start]
> > \setupcolumntextareatext[zero][right][\WidthSpanningText{Hasselt
> > 750}{\hsize}{RegularBold}]
>
> Next I'll try to use that for longer texts...
>
> > \definecolumntextarea   [one][right][x=1,y=45,nx=5,ny=15,state=start]
> >
\setupcolumntextareatext[one][right][{\externalfigure[hass23g][width=\hsize
> >,height=\vsize]}]
>
> ...for I need it the other way: not pictures spanning several columns, but
> parts of columns.
>
> > guess what happens in a double sided layout with nx > 5
>
> Can't see a special effect. Hints?
>
> > actually, if you want you can play with different column widths (an old
> > wish of yours if i remember right)
>
> Ok, i defined a columntextarea and filled it with a buffered text.
> I don't understand why the text gets center aligned. And it's not in the
grid.
>
> It would be nice if one could change the columnset in the middle of the
page,
> say I've a five-column-set and a four-column-set... (Like with start/stop
> columns)
>
> (I fear you must help me a bit when we meet in Erlangen...)
>
> Grüßlis vom Hraban!

Re: pictures in columns

[Hans Hagen]

At 09:52 AM 2/21/2002 +0200, you wrote:
>Hello!
>
>For me, it did not worked out!
>
>It generates the error:
>! No room for a new \box .
>\ch@ck ...rrmessage {No room for a new #3}
>                                           \fi
>\alloc@ ... \count 1#1by\@ne \ch@ck #1#4#2
>                                           \allocationnumber =\count 1...
>\@@arecurse2 ...:\recurselevel \endcsname
>                                           \else \global \setbox \csna...
>\redostepwiserecurse ...edepth \endcsname
>                                           \dodostepwiserecurse
><to be read again>
>                    {
><inserted text>
>                 70
>...
>l.36
>
>The format is the latest format:
>This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14d (MiKTeX 1.20e) (preloaded format=cont-en
>2002.2.21)  21 FEB 2002 09:49

looks like o forget a test on etex;

can you try pdfetex instead of pdftex?

Hans
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Re: pictures in columns

[Dan Seracu]

Sorry, the same result. Now I have tryied with:
This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-14f-released-20000525-2.1 (MiKTeX 2)
(preloaded format=cont-en 2002.2.21)  28 FEB 2002 11:17
**&cont-en newsletter.tex
(newsletter.tex{pdftex.cfg}

ConTeXt  ver: 2001.11.13  fmt: 2002.2.21  int: english  mes: english

Dan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hans Hagen" <pragma@wxs.nl>
To: "Dan Seracu" <dans@sintezis.rdsor.ro>
Cc: <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: pictures in columns

> At 09:52 AM 2/21/2002 +0200, you wrote:
> >Hello!
> >
> >For me, it did not worked out!
> >
> >It generates the error:
> >! No room for a new \box .
> >\ch@ck ...rrmessage {No room for a new #3}
> >                                           \fi
> >\alloc@ ... \count 1#1by\@ne \ch@ck #1#4#2
> >                                           \allocationnumber =\count 1...
> >\@@arecurse2 ...:\recurselevel \endcsname
> >                                           \else \global \setbox \csna...
> >\redostepwiserecurse ...edepth \endcsname
> >                                           \dodostepwiserecurse
> ><to be read again>
> >                    {
> ><inserted text>
> >                 70
> >...
> >l.36
> >
> >The format is the latest format:
> >This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14d (MiKTeX 1.20e) (preloaded
format=cont-en
> >2002.2.21)  21 FEB 2002 09:49
>
> looks like o forget a test on etex;
>
> can you try pdfetex instead of pdftex?
>
>
> Hans
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Re: pictures in columns

[Taco Hoekwater]

On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 11:19:25 +0200
"Dan Seracu" <dans@sintezis.rdsor.ro> wrote:

> Sorry, the same result. Now I have tryied with:
> This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-14f-released-20000525-2.1 (MiKTeX 2)
> (preloaded format=cont-en 2002.2.21)  28 FEB 2002 11:17
> **&cont-en newsletter.tex
> (newsletter.tex{pdftex.cfg}

My guess: pdfetex is not in extended mode.

-- 
groeten,

Taco

Re: pictures in columns

[Dan Seracu]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Taco Hoekwater" <taco@elvenkind.com>
To: "Dan Seracu" <dans@sintezis.rdsor.ro>
Cc: <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: pictures in columns

> On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 11:19:25 +0200
> "Dan Seracu" <dans@sintezis.rdsor.ro> wrote:
>
> > Sorry, the same result. Now I have tryied with:
> > This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-14f-released-20000525-2.1 (MiKTeX 2)
> > (preloaded format=cont-en 2002.2.21)  28 FEB 2002 11:17
> > **&cont-en newsletter.tex
> > (newsletter.tex{pdftex.cfg}
>
> My guess: pdfetex is not in extended mode.
>
Indeed. On the log it does not write ,,Entering extended mode``. What should
I do now? As far as I remember, it {\em automaticaly} entered in extended
mode. Why it doesn't do it now?

Dan Seracu

Re: pictures in columns

[Taco Hoekwater]

On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 13:23:37 +0200
"Dan Seracu" <dans@sintezis.rdsor.ro> wrote:

> Indeed. On the log it does not write ,,Entering extended mode``. What should
> I do now? As far as I remember, it {\em automaticaly} entered in extended
> mode. Why it doesn't do it now?

(pdf)etex switches to extended mode if the *format* was generated with a 
star before the first input file. 

Good example: pdfetex --ini *cont-en
Bad example:  pdfetex --ini cont-en

Perhaps you just need to re-generate the format files using pdfetex
(it is possible that you are still using the 'plain pdftex' format files)?

-- 
groeten,

Taco

etex

[Patrick Gundlach]

Hi Dan,

> > My guess: pdfetex is not in extended mode.
>
> Indeed. On the log it does not write ,,Entering extended mode``. What
> should I do now? As far as I remember, it {\em automaticaly} entered in
> extended mode. Why it doesn't do it now?

how did you create your format? texexec  --alone --make en 
That should make an (pdf)etex format.

-- 
Viele Grüße, 

    Patrick Gundlach

Re: pictures in columns

[Dan Seracu]

Thanks! It started. However I do get an error:

! Missing number, treated as zero.
<to be read again>
                   \box
<argument> \box
                \precolumnbox
\doOTRSETsetgridcells ... {#2}\!!counte #6

\OTRSEThandlepreposttext ...precolumnbox }
                                          \getnoflines {\ht \postcolu...
\OTRSETrestart ...OTRSEThandlepreposttext
                                          \initializecolumntextareas ...
\dostartcolumnset ...}\OTRSETgotonextpage
                                          \OTRSETassignwidths \else \...
...
l.39
from the example posted...

Dan Seracu
----- Original Message -----
From: "Taco Hoekwater" <taco@elvenkind.com>
To: "Dan Seracu" <dans@sintezis.rdsor.ro>
Cc: <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: pictures in columns

> On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 13:23:37 +0200
> "Dan Seracu" <dans@sintezis.rdsor.ro> wrote:
>
> > Indeed. On the log it does not write ,,Entering extended mode``. What
should
> > I do now? As far as I remember, it {\em automaticaly} entered in
extended
> > mode. Why it doesn't do it now?
>
> (pdf)etex switches to extended mode if the *format* was generated with a
> star before the first input file.
>
> Good example: pdfetex --ini *cont-en
> Bad example:  pdfetex --ini cont-en
>
> Perhaps you just need to re-generate the format files using pdfetex
> (it is possible that you are still using the 'plain pdftex' format files)?
>
> --
> groeten,
>
> Taco

Re: pictures in columns

[Taco Hoekwater]

On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 14:45:02 +0200
"Dan Seracu" <dans@sintezis.rdsor.ro> wrote:

> Thanks! It started. However I do get an error:
> 
> ! Missing number, treated as zero.
> <to be read again>
>                    \box
> <argument> \box
>                 \precolumnbox
> \doOTRSETsetgridcells ... {#2}\!!counte #6
> 

Out of my league here and not enough time on my hands to investigate. 
I can't help you, I'm afraid. 

-- 
groeten,

Taco

Re: pictures in columns

[Hans Hagen]

At 02:45 PM 2/28/2002 +0200, Dan Seracu wrote:
>Thanks! It started. However I do get an error:
>
>! Missing number, treated as zero.
><to be read again>
>                    \box
><argument> \box
>                 \precolumnbox

also in the latest beta?

Hans
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Re: Pictures in columns

[Hans Hagen]

At 02:50 PM 2/28/2002 +0200, Dan Seracu wrote:
>Hello there!
>
>Is there a documentation about column sets and so on? I am really 
>intrested in this...

later this year, since it's still experimental, i now start using it in 
projects, so later this year ...

Hans

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Re: Pictures in columns

[Dan Seracu]

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GlacierHello there!

Is there a documentation about column sets and so on? I am really intrested in this...

Dan Seracu

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