confusing <, >

confusing <, >

[Hraban]

Hello!

If I use < or > in my text, it becomes "spanish" ! and ? (¡, ¿)
I thought these characters could be used "plain"?
Must I use some macro? I tried \< \less \textless (only errors).

(I've got tables with symbols only for LaTeX, sorry)

Hraban.

Re: confusing <, >

[Frans Goddijn]

I can do that one!

try $<$

Groet!

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Hraban" <angerweit@gmx.net>

> If I use < or > in my text, it becomes "spanish" ! and ? (¡, ¿)

Re: confusing <, >

[berend]

Hraban wrote:

> If I use < or > in my text, it becomes "spanish" ! and ? (¡, ¿)
> I thought these characters could be used "plain"?
> Must I use some macro? I tried \< \less \textless (only errors).
> 
> (I've got tables with symbols only for LaTeX, sorry)

Try:

	{\tttf <}

or

	\type{<}

The < in your input maps to a different character in your font table
than you expect. Switching to typewriter fonts usually works fine.

-- 
Groetjes,

Berend. (-:

Re: confusing <, >

[Frans Goddijn]

Berend wrote:

> Try:
> {\tttf <}
> or
> \type{<}

your examples work as well, but they use another font. To my eye the $<$
looks thinner, lighter and maybe that's better if it's used in a text
environment or in formulas when the numbers are also not in the typewriter
font.

Groet!

frans

Re: confusing <, >

[Hans Hagen]

At 06:16 PM 9/4/00 +0200, Hraban wrote:
>Hello!
>
>If I use < or > in my text, it becomes "spanish" ! and ? (¡, ¿)
>I thought these characters could be used "plain"?
>Must I use some macro? I tried \< \less \textless (only errors).
>
>(I've got tables with symbols only for LaTeX, sorry)

The computer modern have those spanish symbols in those slots, but since <
and > are either math of verbose, using $<$ or \type{<} is ok.

Hans
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Re: confusing <, >

[Hraban]

> The computer modern have those spanish symbols in those slots, but since <
> and > are either math of verbose, using $<$ or \type{<} is ok.

Thank you all!

I should have thinked of $ myself, sorry.

Strange, that 7-bit-ascii-chars are mapped "wrong"...

Hraban.

Re: confusing <, >

[Hans Hagen]

At 03:58 PM 9/5/00 +0200, Hraban wrote:
>> The computer modern have those spanish symbols in those slots, but since <
>> and > are either math of verbose, using $<$ or \type{<} is ok.
>
>Thank you all!
>
>I should have thinked of $ myself, sorry.
>
>Strange, that 7-bit-ascii-chars are mapped "wrong"...

If you want to test this: 

\definefont[SomeFont][filename] \SomeFont

\dorecurse{255}{\hbox{\recurselevel: \char\recurselevel}\quad}

If you compare cmr fonts you will even notice differences in encoding
between cmr* ones, like dollar and pound. 

The most interesting thing is the missing space! TeX has no real space,
only skips. Used to be a problem with acrobat, who optimized based on
char32 being space. 

Hans 
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