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* Help with citation layout.
@ 2011-11-16 19:10 Christian
  2011-11-16 21:09 ` Pontus Lurcock
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Dear list,

I need the help of a BibTeX/citation module expert. I want to modify the appearance of @INBOOK entries.
Currently they look like this (apa-de style):

author (year) _booktitle_, Chapter chaptertitle, pages, publisher, edition.

What I'm aming for is this:

author (year) _chaptertitle_, In editor (Edt.): _booktitle_, pages, publisher, edition.

Where chaptertitle refers to the title of the chapter (usually some sort of article or essay), very similar to arttitle.

Is there a way to accomplish this? Or is the INBOOK entry not meant to do this?
I'm especially having trouble to get the editor to show up (let alone having "In " in front of it). Does editor and author conflict here?

Thank you for you help!

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* Re: Help with citation layout.
  2011-11-16 19:10 Help with citation layout Christian
@ 2011-11-16 21:09 ` Pontus Lurcock
  2011-11-16 21:45   ` Christian
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From: Pontus Lurcock @ 2011-11-16 21:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Wed 16 Nov 2011, Christian wrote:

> I need the help of a BibTeX/citation module expert. I want to modify the appearance of @INBOOK entries.
> Currently they look like this (apa-de style):
> 
> author (year) _booktitle_, Chapter chaptertitle, pages, publisher, edition.
> 
> What I'm aming for is this:
> 
> author (year) _chaptertitle_, In editor (Edt.): _booktitle_, pages, publisher, edition.
> 
> Where chaptertitle refers to the title of the chapter (usually some sort of article or essay), very similar to arttitle.

I encountered the same problem a while ago and discovered that using
@incollection solves it. (The documentation at
http://www.kfunigraz.ac.at/~binder/texhelp/bibtx-12.html implies that
@inbook only supports a chapter number or page range, rather than a
titled section.) Example:

@incollection{ernst1989anisotropy,
  title = {Averaging of anisotropy of magnetic susceptibility data},
  author = {Ernst, R. E. and Pearce, G. W.},
  booktitle = {Statistical Applications in the Earth Sciences},
  editor = {Agterberg, F. P. and Bonham-Carter, G. F.},
  note = {Paper 89-9},
  pages = {297--305},
  year = {1989},
  publisher = {Geological Survey of Canada}
}

With the default bibliography style this typesets to:

Ernst, R. E. and Pearce, G. W. (1989). Averaging of anisotropy of magnetic
susceptibility data. In Agterberg, F. P. and Bonham-Carter, G. F., editors,
_Statistical Applications in the Earth Sciences_, pages 297–305. Geological
Survey of Canada. Paper 89-9.

Pont
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* Re: Help with citation layout.
  2011-11-16 21:09 ` Pontus Lurcock
@ 2011-11-16 21:45   ` Christian
  2011-11-16 21:50     ` Christian
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Christian @ 2011-11-16 21:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'mailing list for ConTeXt users'

> > I need the help of a BibTeX/citation module expert. I want to modify the
> appearance of @INBOOK entries.
> > Currently they look like this (apa-de style):
> >
> > author (year) _booktitle_, Chapter chaptertitle, pages, publisher, edition.
> >
> > What I'm aming for is this:
> >
> > author (year) _chaptertitle_, In editor (Edt.): _booktitle_, pages, publisher,
> edition.
> >
> > Where chaptertitle refers to the title of the chapter (usually some sort of
> article or essay), very similar to arttitle.
> 
> I encountered the same problem a while ago and discovered that using
> @incollection solves it. (The documentation at
> http://www.kfunigraz.ac.at/~binder/texhelp/bibtx-12.html implies that
> @inbook only supports a chapter number or page range, rather than a titled
> section.) Example:
> 
> @incollection{ernst1989anisotropy,
>   title = {Averaging of anisotropy of magnetic susceptibility data},
>   author = {Ernst, R. E. and Pearce, G. W.},
>   booktitle = {Statistical Applications in the Earth Sciences},
>   editor = {Agterberg, F. P. and Bonham-Carter, G. F.},
>   note = {Paper 89-9},
>   pages = {297--305},
>   year = {1989},
>   publisher = {Geological Survey of Canada} }
> 
> With the default bibliography style this typesets to:
> 
> Ernst, R. E. and Pearce, G. W. (1989). Averaging of anisotropy of magnetic
> susceptibility data. In Agterberg, F. P. and Bonham-Carter, G. F., editors,
> _Statistical Applications in the Earth Sciences_, pages 297–305. Geological
> Survey of Canada. Paper 89-9.

Thanks Pont, that is already helpful to know that others encountered this problem, too.

However, @inbook supports a chapter title that is placed with \insertchapter.
So I thought I could put the "arttitle" in the chapter field and the book title in the title field of bibtex.
But I did not manage to get the author and the editor in my layout.

Example:
% Bibtex:
@INBOOK{naunin07,
	author ={Dietrich Naunin},
	editor = {Dietrich Naunin},
	title = {Hybrid-, Batterie- und Brennstoffzellen-Elektrofahrzeuge: Technik, Strukturen und Entwicklungen},
	chapter = {Elektrische Antriebssysteme},
	editor = {Dietrich Naunin},
	pages = {20-33},
	address = {Renningen},
	publisher = {expert-Verlag},
	year = {2007},
	edition = {4.},
	ISBN = {3-8169-2625-8},
}
% Context:
\setuppublicationlayout[inbook]{%
\insertauthors{}{ }{}%
\insertpubyear{(}{). }{\unskip.}%
\insertchapter{\bgroup \it}{\egroup. }{\unskip}%
\inserteditors{In\ }{, editors: }{}%
\inserttitle{\bgroup \it}{\egroup. }{\unskip}%
\insertpages{}{}{}%}

With this I get:

Naunin, Dietrich (2007). _Elektrische Antriebssysteme_. _Hybrid-, Batterie- und Brennstoff-
zellen-Elektrofahrzeuge: Technik, Strukturen und Entwicklungen_. 20-33

The editor is not inserted, but the pages are :( This may be a bad example since the author of the chapter is the editor, but it's also not working anywhere else.



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* Re: Help with citation layout.
  2011-11-16 21:45   ` Christian
@ 2011-11-16 21:50     ` Christian
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From: Christian @ 2011-11-16 21:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'mailing list for ConTeXt users'

> > > I need the help of a BibTeX/citation module expert. I want to modify
> > > the
> > appearance of @INBOOK entries.
> > > Currently they look like this (apa-de style):
> > >
> > > author (year) _booktitle_, Chapter chaptertitle, pages, publisher, edition.
> > >
> > > What I'm aming for is this:
> > >
> > > author (year) _chaptertitle_, In editor (Edt.): _booktitle_, pages,
> > > publisher,
> > edition.
> > >
> > > Where chaptertitle refers to the title of the chapter (usually some
> > > sort of
> > article or essay), very similar to arttitle.
> >
> > I encountered the same problem a while ago and discovered that using
> > @incollection solves it. (The documentation at
> > http://www.kfunigraz.ac.at/~binder/texhelp/bibtx-12.html implies that
> > @inbook only supports a chapter number or page range, rather than a
> > titled
> > section.) Example:
> >
> > @incollection{ernst1989anisotropy,
> >   title = {Averaging of anisotropy of magnetic susceptibility data},
> >   author = {Ernst, R. E. and Pearce, G. W.},
> >   booktitle = {Statistical Applications in the Earth Sciences},
> >   editor = {Agterberg, F. P. and Bonham-Carter, G. F.},
> >   note = {Paper 89-9},
> >   pages = {297--305},
> >   year = {1989},
> >   publisher = {Geological Survey of Canada} }
> >
> > With the default bibliography style this typesets to:
> >
> > Ernst, R. E. and Pearce, G. W. (1989). Averaging of anisotropy of
> > magnetic susceptibility data. In Agterberg, F. P. and Bonham-Carter,
> > G. F., editors, _Statistical Applications in the Earth Sciences_,
> > pages 297–305. Geological Survey of Canada. Paper 89-9.
> 
> Thanks Pont, that is already helpful to know that others encountered this
> problem, too.
> 
> However, @inbook supports a chapter title that is placed with \insertchapter.
> So I thought I could put the "arttitle" in the chapter field and the book title in
> the title field of bibtex.
> But I did not manage to get the author and the editor in my layout.
> 
> Example:
> % Bibtex:
> @INBOOK{naunin07,
> 	author ={Dietrich Naunin},
> 	editor = {Dietrich Naunin},
> 	title = {Hybrid-, Batterie- und Brennstoffzellen-Elektrofahrzeuge:
> Technik, Strukturen und Entwicklungen},
> 	chapter = {Elektrische Antriebssysteme},
> 	editor = {Dietrich Naunin},
> 	pages = {20-33},
> 	address = {Renningen},
> 	publisher = {expert-Verlag},
> 	year = {2007},
> 	edition = {4.},
> 	ISBN = {3-8169-2625-8},
> }
> % Context:
> \setuppublicationlayout[inbook]{%
> \insertauthors{}{ }{}%
> \insertpubyear{(}{). }{\unskip.}%
> \insertchapter{\bgroup \it}{\egroup. }{\unskip}% \inserteditors{In\ }{,
> editors: }{}% \inserttitle{\bgroup \it}{\egroup. }{\unskip}%
> \insertpages{}{}{}%}
> 
> With this I get:
> 
> Naunin, Dietrich (2007). _Elektrische Antriebssysteme_. _Hybrid-, Batterie-
> und Brennstoff-
> zellen-Elektrofahrzeuge: Technik, Strukturen und Entwicklungen_. 20-33
> 
> The editor is not inserted, but the pages are :( This may be a bad example
> since the author of the chapter is the editor, but it's also not working
> anywhere else.

OK, I just checked, the editor doesn't even make it into the bbl-file :P

I guess that’s why Wikipedia says "author or editor" (not both, I guess).
So I guess theres only a non-clean way to do this.
Using incollection (probably better), like you suggested, Pont, or inserting the editor in another field an customizing  the inbook appearance.

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