* Re: Lucida Bright fonts (was Re: Context equivalent to \kern-1pt)
@ 2000-11-22 7:50 siep.kroonenberg
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From: siep.kroonenberg @ 2000-11-22 7:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ntg-context
On 21 Nov, Christopher Tipper wrote:
>> > Maarten Wisse
>> >
>> > P.S. Just a note which might be interesting for ConTeXt users. Hans
>> > uses Lucida fonts quite frequently, but they are not free. Now, in
>> > XFree86 4.0, the new version of Windows which is used on Linux
>> > distributions, Y&Y has freely provided a font called Lucidux which is
>> > a clone of Lucida. Make tfm and vf out of that, and you have at least
>> > Lucida, Lucida Bright and Lucida Sans. Nice for presentations for
>> > instance. Just change the presentation style file to Lucidux and it's
>> > fixed.
>>
>> The Type1 versions of the Lucida fonts come with StarOffice 5.2, which
>> is free.
>>
>> Siep
>
> I've taken about 8 minutes looking at this issue with StarOffice 5.2 on
windows, and it's not quite true. Certainly when I distill documents,
Lucida comes out in native Type 1 in the output pdf's, but further
investigation suggests that they start life as TrueType .ttf files,
which of course lack ligatures and proper font-hinting. From what I can
gather, StarOffice relies heavily on the JRE, which seems to have a bunch
of classes to convert TrueType to Type1 "on-the-fly". Maybe somebody could
correct me on this? Maybe different on Unices?
>
> Christopher
The Linux version comes with Type1 versions of the Lucida fonts.
--
Siep Kroonenberg
Kluwer Academic Publishers, Prepress Department
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siep.kroonenberg@wkap.nl
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* Re: Lucida Bright fonts (was Re: Context equivalent to \kern-1pt)
2000-12-10 10:44 ` siepo
@ 2000-12-11 9:17 ` Taco Hoekwater
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From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2000-12-11 9:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
siepo@client44-3.kabelA.oprit.rug.nl wrote:
>
> My guess is that it woould only sort-of work. Does anybody have more
> concrete information or is willing to sort this out?
I had a look. The version with StarOffice is version 1.000 by
Bigelow&Holmes
(my YandY is version 1.008), and it misses a number of characters.
Compared
to texnansi encoding, it (the 1252 encoded one) misses
- ff,ffi,ffl ligs
- dot, breve, macron, ring accents
- dotlessj
- lstroke and Lstoke
- [SZ]caron, [sz]caron, Yacute (these are in the 1250 one)
- [123]superscript, 1/4, 1/2, 3/4 fractions, mu
- thorn, Thorn, eth, ETH
- brokenvert, daggerdbl, permille, minus
- and the bullet dot is a *lot* heavier
If your text is in english, probably the only thing that needs attention
are the missing ligatures (lest you get holes in your words)
--
groeten,
Taco
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* Re: Lucida Bright fonts (was Re: Context equivalent to \kern-1pt)
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@ 2000-12-10 10:44 ` siepo
2000-12-11 9:17 ` Taco Hoekwater
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From: siepo @ 2000-12-10 10:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ntg-context
(Didn't this start on the Context list? Anyhow, I am moving it back
there...)
On 4 Dec, Maarten Wisse wrote:
>>
>>The Linux version comes with Type1 versions of the Lucida fonts.
> Sorry to take so much time before answering. It's true. They are
> there, but it seems that they are in Windows 1250 encoding. Can they
> be used without problems with the existing tfm etc. files in for
> instance TeTeX? Greetings,
>
>
> Maarten
And I took a long time answering too...
My guess is that it woould only sort-of work. Does anybody have more
concrete information or is willing to sort this out?
--
Siep Kroonenberg
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* Lucida Bright fonts (was Re: Context equivalent to \kern-1pt)
2000-11-18 11:17 Context equivalent to \kern-1pt siepo
@ 2000-11-21 16:16 ` Christopher Tipper
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From: Christopher Tipper @ 2000-11-21 16:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ntg-context
> > Maarten Wisse
> >
> > P.S. Just a note which might be interesting for ConTeXt users. Hans
> > uses Lucida fonts quite frequently, but they are not free. Now, in
> > XFree86 4.0, the new version of Windows which is used on Linux
> > distributions, Y&Y has freely provided a font called Lucidux which is
> > a clone of Lucida. Make tfm and vf out of that, and you have at least
> > Lucida, Lucida Bright and Lucida Sans. Nice for presentations for
> > instance. Just change the presentation style file to Lucidux and it's
> > fixed.
>
> The Type1 versions of the Lucida fonts come with StarOffice 5.2, which
> is free.
>
> Siep
I've taken about 8 minutes looking at this issue with StarOffice 5.2 on windows, and it's not quite true. Certainly when I distill documents, Lucida comes out in native Type 1 in the output pdf's, but further investigation suggests that they start life as TrueType .ttf files, which of course lack ligatures and proper font-hinting. From what I can gather, StarOffice relies heavily on the JRE, which seems to have a bunch of classes to convert TrueType to Type1 "on-the-fly". Maybe somebody could correct me on this? Maybe different on Unices?
Christopher
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