total font/encoding confusion

total font/encoding confusion

[Patrick Gundlach]

Hi there,

I know, I am very adventurous... I have tried to use a different font than 
computer modern :) (actually I have used some standard-postscript fonts 
with context before...)

So I have tried to use the installed times-roman (the urw variant) and the 
vf's that come with the tetex distribution in T1 AKA ec encoding. So there 
should be a simple mapping between times-roman and ptmr8t. The rest should 
be done in the dvi driver. 

That is what I have tried: (I am using times here, because I know everybody 
has it).
-----------type-t1times.tex--------
\usetypescriptfile [type-buy]

\starttypescript [serif][t1times][ec]
 \definefontsynonym [Times-Roman]      [ptmr8t]  [encoding=ec]
 \definefontsynonym [Times-Italic]     [ptmri8t] [encoding=ec]
 \definefontsynonym [Times-Bold]       [ptmb8t]  [encoding=ec]
 \definefontsynonym [Times-BoldItalic] [ptmbi8t] [encoding=ec]
 \definefontsynonym [Times-Slanted]    [ptmro8t] [encoding=ec]
 \definefontsynonym [Times-BoldSlanted][ptmbo8t] [encoding=ec]
 \definefontsynonym [Times] [Times-Roman]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript      [serif][t1times][name]
   \usetypescript     [serif][fallback]
   \definefontsynonym [Serif]    [Times-Roman]
   \definefontsynonym [SerifBold][Times-Bold]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [MyTimes]
  \definetypeface [mytimes] [rm] [serif] [t1times] [default] [encoding=ec]
\stoptypescript
---------end type-t1times.tex------------

------------timestest.tex ---------
% output=pdf
\mainlanguage[de]
%\enableregime[il1]
\setupencoding[default=ec]
\usetypescriptfile[type-t1times]

\usetypescript[MyTimes]
\setupbodyfont[mytimes]
\starttext
ä\"a "a ß \"s 
%\showfont
\showcharacters
\stoptext
-----------------timestest.tex

Here is a description of my output:
first line: äa a SS s (both a and last s with a bar in the middle, but the 
"a-bar is a bit lower than the "s .)

then there is a line 'default ptmr8t at 12.0pt: composed bottom char raw'

after that a lot of very weird accents and Chars and black rules...

There is obviously something going wrong. But what? There is for example 
'textgrave' mentioned in the first position, which is in texnansi pos 18 
(decimal). And in the pos 18 in ec encoding, there is quotedblleft, which 
is shown in the \showcharacters output. So this seems to be a bit 'correct'

Don't dare to uncomment \enableregime[il1] -- the first line gets even 
worse :)

And - don't uncomment \showfont! You can't say you haven't been warned :)

BTW: I am using:

This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-14h-released-20010417-2.1 (Web2C 7.3.3.1)
entering extended mode
(./timestest.tex{/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg}

ConTeXt  ver: 2002.1.24  fmt: 2002.1.27  int: english  mes: english

-- 
Viele Grüße, 

    Patrick Gundlach

Re: total font/encoding confusion

[Patrick Gundlach]

Hallo Patrick, (uh, that's me!)

Ok, I should have followed the golden rule of context-bugs: before writing 
a bug report, check the newest beta ;-) Now everything works fine with the 
newest beta:
ConTeXt  ver: 2002.3.4  fmt: 2002.3.9  int: english  mes: english

but: two questions left: 
how should I use the \ShowFont command? (Module fnt-01)
how should I use the \showfont command? (font-ini.tex):

\showfont[Serif at 12pt]
yields:

(/opt/context/2002.03.04/texmf/tex/context/base/font-run.tex)
color          : system rgb is local activated
! Missing number, treated as zero.
<to be read again> 
                   \def 
\handlecompoundcharacter #1->\def 
                                  \dohandlecompoundcharacter {\ifx \next 
\bg...

\@@ar@@2 ... \col \recurselevel \scratchcounter ="
                                                  \hexnumber \row 
\hexnumber...

\redostepwiserecurse ... \recursedepth \endcsname 
                                                  \dodostepwiserecurse 
<to be read again> 
                   {
<inserted text> 
                1

-- 
Viele Grüße, 

    Patrick Gundlach

Re: total font/encoding confusion

[Hans Hagen]

At 10:36 PM 3/9/2002 +0100, Patrick Gundlach wrote:
>Hallo Patrick, (uh, that's me!)
>
>Ok, I should have followed the golden rule of context-bugs: before writing
>a bug report, check the newest beta ;-) Now everything works fine with the
>newest beta:
>ConTeXt  ver: 2002.3.4  fmt: 2002.3.9  int: english  mes: english

lucky me

 > how should I use the \ShowFont command? (Module fnt-01)

that one is used in the files that are generated by texfont and not useful 
outside that context.

>how should I use the \showfont command? (font-ini.tex):
>
>\showfont[Serif at 12pt]
>yields:
>
>(/opt/context/2002.03.04/texmf/tex/context/base/font-run.tex)
>color          : system rgb is local activated
>! Missing number, treated as zero.
><to be read again>
>                    \def
>\handlecompoundcharacter #1->\def
>                                   \dohandlecompoundcharacter {\ifx \next
>\bg...
>
>\@@ar@@2 ... \col \recurselevel \scratchcounter ="
>                                                   \hexnumber \row

strange, maybe due to the " being active? Are you in "german doublequote 
mode"?

Hans
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Re: total font/encoding confusion

[Patrick Gundlach]

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Hello out there...

>  > how should I use the \ShowFont command? (Module fnt-01)
>
> that one is used in the files that are generated by texfont and not
> useful outside that context.
Oh, I see. \showfonts already does exactly what I want :)

> strange, maybe due to the " being active? Are you in "german doublequote
> mode"?
Yes I am. And keeping the \mainlanguage in its original state solves this 
problem. Thanks. But One strange thing though:

% output=pdf
%\setupcolors[state=start]
\setupencoding[default=ec]
\starttext
\showfont[Serif at 12pt]
\stoptext

see the second line: colors are off as a default? But the above gives me 
blue numbers and a red box around the glyphs.

-- 
Viele Grüße, 

    Patrick Gundlach