* Asymmetric margins
@ 2002-04-04 19:55 John Culleton
2002-04-05 13:47 ` Bill McClain
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From: John Culleton @ 2002-04-04 19:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
I would like to set up:
left margin=.5in and right margin= 1.5in for right hand pages,
left margin=1.5in and right margin .5in for left hand pages.
This leaves room for a sidebar (marginal text) on the outer
edge of either page type.
Any suggestions? (Or if I have missed something perhaps a
page reference :-)
John Culleton
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* Re: Asymmetric margins
2002-04-04 19:55 Asymmetric margins John Culleton
@ 2002-04-05 13:47 ` Bill McClain
2002-04-05 17:27 ` Hans Hagen
2002-04-05 17:35 ` Hans Hagen
2002-04-07 19:28 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Bill McClain @ 2002-04-05 13:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ntg-context
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 14:55:41 -0500
John Culleton <john@wexfordpress.com> wrote:
> I would like to set up:
> left margin=.5in and right margin= 1.5in for right hand pages,
> left margin=1.5in and right margin .5in for left hand pages.
>
> This leaves room for a sidebar (marginal text) on the outer
> edge of either page type.
I haven't tried putting anything in the margins yet, but I want to use
marginal notes extensively in my next projects, so I am interested in
this also.
Here is how I've controlled margin widths for a book layout.
This turns on right-left mirroring:
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
Say the page width is 8.5in. I want a 1in gutter on the inside margin of
each page, and a 1.5in margin on the outer edge.
\setuplayout[backspace=1in, width=6in]
"backspace" is the gutter, "width" is the text area, and whatever is
left over is the outer margin:
8.5 - 1 - 6 = 1.5
As far as I can see, the outer margin is not specified directly. The
page width is an implicit factor in the calculation.
-Bill
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* Re: Asymmetric margins
2002-04-05 13:47 ` Bill McClain
@ 2002-04-05 17:27 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2002-04-05 17:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ntg-context
At 07:47 AM 4/5/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 14:55:41 -0500
>John Culleton <john@wexfordpress.com> wrote:
>
> > I would like to set up:
> > left margin=.5in and right margin= 1.5in for right hand pages,
> > left margin=1.5in and right margin .5in for left hand pages.
> >
> > This leaves room for a sidebar (marginal text) on the outer
> > edge of either page type.
>
>I haven't tried putting anything in the margins yet, but I want to use
>marginal notes extensively in my next projects, so I am interested in
>this also.
hm, i've done a lot of margin stuff last days (stacking graphics in margins
and edges, on grids, spanning areas, etc) so you can imaging that it is
somehow possible to use the margins -)
>Here is how I've controlled margin widths for a book layout.
>
>This turns on right-left mirroring:
>
> \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
right, but
alternative={doublesided,singlesided}
gives you a non mirrored alternative
>Say the page width is 8.5in. I want a 1in gutter on the inside margin of
>each page, and a 1.5in margin on the outer edge.
>
> \setuplayout[backspace=1in, width=6in]
(in the latest version there is also cutspace)
>"backspace" is the gutter, "width" is the text area, and whatever is
>left over is the outer margin:
>
> 8.5 - 1 - 6 = 1.5
>
>As far as I can see, the outer margin is not specified directly. The
>page width is an implicit factor in the calculation.
you can specify
backspace=1in,cutspace=1.5in,width=middle
indeed the page width is importasnt, which is why you can say:
\definepapersize[WhyUseInches][width=8.5in,height=14in]
\setuppapersize[WhyUseInches][letter]
\setuplayout[location=middle,marking=on]
etc etc
Also, you can specify leftmargin/rightmargin etc but those are virtual
Hans
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* Re: Asymmetric margins
2002-04-04 19:55 Asymmetric margins John Culleton
2002-04-05 13:47 ` Bill McClain
@ 2002-04-05 17:35 ` Hans Hagen
2002-04-07 20:50 ` John Culleton
2002-04-07 19:28 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2002-04-05 17:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ntg-context
At 02:55 PM 4/4/2002 -0500, John Culleton wrote:
> I would like to set up:
> left margin=.5in and right margin= 1.5in for right hand pages,
> left margin=1.5in and right margin .5in for left hand pages.
>
> This leaves room for a sidebar (marginal text) on the outer
> edge of either page type.
it's always dangerous to change dimensions while tex is not yet finished
with a page (you never know where tex will break), however, you can say:
\definelayout[odd] [width=10cm]
\definelayout[even][width=12cm]
\definelayout[3] [width=5cm]
and give \dorecurse{100}{\input tufte \par}
a try; this demonstrates that you can fool around with margins on left and
right pages
Hans
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* Re: Asymmetric margins
2002-04-04 19:55 Asymmetric margins John Culleton
2002-04-05 13:47 ` Bill McClain
2002-04-05 17:35 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2002-04-07 19:28 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2002-04-07 19:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
Am Donnerstag, 4. April 2002 21:55 schrieb John Culleton:
> Any suggestions? (Or if I have missed something perhaps a
> page reference :-)
Shy question: Did you have a look in the manual at the page with all the
configurable widths and heights?
Further: try \showlayout
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* Re: Asymmetric margins
2002-04-05 17:35 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2002-04-07 20:50 ` John Culleton
2002-04-08 7:26 ` Hans Hagen
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From: John Culleton @ 2002-04-07 20:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ntg-context
On Friday 05 April 2002 12:35, Hans Hagen wrote:
> At 02:55 PM 4/4/2002 -0500, John Culleton wrote:
> > I would like to set up:
> > left margin=.5in and right margin= 1.5in for right hand pages,
> > left margin=1.5in and right margin .5in for left hand pages.
> >
> > This leaves room for a sidebar (marginal text) on the outer
> > edge of either page type.
>
> it's always dangerous to change dimensions while tex is not yet
> finished with a page (you never know where tex will break),
> however, you can say:
>
> \definelayout[odd] [width=10cm]
> \definelayout[even][width=12cm]
> \definelayout[3] [width=5cm]
>
> and give \dorecurse{100}{\input tufte \par}
>
> a try; this demonstrates that you can fool around with margins on
> left and right pages
>
> Hans
>
I don't find \definelayout in the manual. Does it take the same
options as \setuplayout?
John Culleton
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* Re: Asymmetric margins
2002-04-07 20:50 ` John Culleton
@ 2002-04-08 7:26 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2002-04-08 7:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ntg-context
At 03:50 PM 4/7/2002 -0500, John Culleton wrote:
>I don't find \definelayout in the manual. Does it take the same
new command
>options as \setuplayout?
indeed
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