From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/83878 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Martin Moncrieffe Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Em dash using Hoefler Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:10:06 +0100 Message-ID: <02234330-3716-418B-A965-B2DF919DBEFB@cam.ac.uk> References: <2C698EAF-A1D3-40CA-84F0-6F9E1D735C57@cam.ac.uk> <20130820083334.GE17312@homerow> <20130820095201.GF17312@homerow> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0452907501==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1376997014 26703 80.91.229.3 (20 Aug 2013 11:10:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 11:10:14 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Aug 20 13:10:17 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([5.39.185.229]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VBjpH-00022v-Ft for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:10:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE4E101FC; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:09:09 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id nQEWKzx4vpfB; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:09:03 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 880B8101F7; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:09:03 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273CC101F7 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:09:03 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 1FS3C8AefQVY for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:09:02 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter3-ams.mf.surf.net (filter3-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.71]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086E5101F5 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:09:01 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ppsw-32.csi.cam.ac.uk (ppsw-32.csi.cam.ac.uk [IPv6:2001:630:212:8::e:f32]) by filter3-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id r7KBA67d008097 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:10:06 +0200 X-Cam-AntiVirus: no malware found X-Cam-ScannerInfo: http://www.cam.ac.uk/cs/email/scanner/ Original-Received: from mcm35-mbp.bioc.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.36.211]:55642) by ppsw-32.csi.cam.ac.uk (smtp.hermes.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.156]:587) with esmtpsa (PLAIN:mcm35) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) id 1VBjp8-0000C0-1t (Exim 4.80_167-5a66dd3) for ntg-context@ntg.nl (return-path ); Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:10:06 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20130820095201.GF17312@homerow> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=2001:630:212:8::e:f32; country=GB X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 03KeXa6r9 - 1d806aa76801 - 20130820 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:83878 Archived-At: --===============0452907501== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_79484000-EA99-484C-BF17-E48D74660239" --Apple-Mail=_79484000-EA99-484C-BF17-E48D74660239 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Marko, On 20 Aug 2013, at 10:52, Marco Patzer wrote: >=20 > I checked a different version of the font (1.000) and it works. It > seems you're using a version not containing an em dash. Thanks for looking into this. Finder reports that my version of Hoefler = is 8.0d2e1. Interestingly, bringing up the font panel, selecting Hoefler = text followed by show characters (gear wheel in bottom left of font = panel), shows the the em dash is present in the font. Additionally, the following, typeset with lualatex, uses hoefler and = does have the emdash. The resulting pdf file when intorrogated using = pdffont reports > pdffont lat_hoef.pdf HoeflerText-Regular (Type0) \documentclass{article} \usepackage{xltxtra} \defaultfontfeatures{Mapping=3Dtex-text} \setromanfont=20 [Scale=3D1.05,ItalicFeatures=3D{Contextuals=3D{NoLineFinal,NoLineInitial}}= ]=20 {Hoefler Text} \begin{document} This is hoefler at 10pt. This is an em dash---ok! \end{document} So, is there something wrong with the ConTeXt mapping? __martin --Apple-Mail=_79484000-EA99-484C-BF17-E48D74660239 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hi = Marko,

On 20 Aug 2013, at 10:52, Marco Patzer = <lists@homerow.info> = wrote:


I checked a different version of the font (1.000) and = it works. It
seems you're using a version not containing an em = dash.

Thanks for looking into = this. Finder reports that my version of Hoefler is 8.0d2e1. = Interestingly, bringing up the font panel, selecting Hoefler text = followed by show characters (gear wheel in bottom left of font panel), = shows the the em dash is present in the = font.

Additionally, the following, typeset with = lualatex, uses hoefler and does have the emdash. The resulting = pdf file when intorrogated using pdffont =  reports

> pdffont = lat_hoef.pdf
 HoeflerText-Regular = (Type0)


\documentclass{article}=
\usepackage{xltxtra}
\defaultfontfeatures{Mapping=3Dt= ex-text}
\setromanfont 
[Scale=3D1.05,ItalicFeatu= res=3D{Contextuals=3D{NoLineFinal,NoLineInitial}}] 
{Hoefle= r = Text}

\begin{document}

T= his is hoefler at 10pt. This is an em = dash---ok!

\end{document}

So, is there something = wrong with the ConTeXt mapping?

__martin


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