* module article-basic interferes with \definebodyfont?
@ 2020-05-01 11:15 Gerben Wierda
2020-05-01 11:22 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2020-05-01 11:31 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Gerben Wierda @ 2020-05-01 11:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
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The following code:
\enabletrackers[context.trace]
%\usemodule[article-basic]
\starttypescript [sans] [optima]
\setups[font:fallback:sans]
\definefontsynonym [Sans] [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Regular)] [features=default]
\definefontsynonym [SansBold] [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Bold)] [features=default]
\definefontsynonym [SansItalic] [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Italic)] [features=default]
\definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Bold Italic)] [features=default]
\stoptypescript
\definetypeface [optima] [ss] [sans] [optima] [default]
\setupbodyfont [optima]
\starttext
\startMPpage[instance=doublefun]
picture pic;
pic := textext("\definebodyfont[14.9pt][rm][default=Regular at 14.9pt]\switchtobodyfont[14.9pt]\setupinterlinespace[16.9pt]\framed[align=center,frame=off,offset=none,width=335.350bp]{\colored[r=0.000, g=0.000, b=0.000]{\rm (Artifact)\\}}");
draw pic scaled 1.13;
\stopMPpage
\stoptext
Produces nice Optima at 14.9pt without \usemodule[article-basic] (as above), but with \usemodule[article-basic] included, the output becomes some serif (modern?) font, but only if I use nonstandard font sizes.
Took me some time to hunt this one down.
I actually don’t know what article-basic does for me (I started out with an example given to me by Hans) and I don’t need it now, but I might need it later in combination with my own stuff
G
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2020-05-01 11:15 module article-basic interferes with \definebodyfont? Gerben Wierda
@ 2020-05-01 11:22 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2020-05-01 11:58 ` Gerben Wierda
2020-05-01 11:31 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2020-05-01 11:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Gerben Wierda
Gerben Wierda schrieb am 01.05.2020 um 13:15:
> The following code:
>
> \enabletrackers[context.trace]
>
> %\usemodule[article-basic]
>
> \starttypescript [sans] [optima]
> \setups[font:fallback:sans]
> \definefontsynonym [Sans] [file:Optima.ttc(Optima
> Regular)] [features=default]
> \definefontsynonym [SansBold] [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Bold)]
> [features=default]
> \definefontsynonym [SansItalic] [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Italic)]
> [features=default]
> \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Bold
> Italic)] [features=default]
> \stoptypescript
>
> \definetypeface [optima] [ss] [sans] [optima] [default]
Set a math font to avoid problems.
> \setupbodyfont [optima]
>
> \starttext
>
> \startMPpage[instance=doublefun]
> picture pic;
> pic := textext("\definebodyfont[14.9pt][rm][default=Regular at
> 14.9pt]\switchtobodyfont[14.9pt]\setupinterlinespace[16.9pt]\framed[align=center,frame=off,offset=none,width=335.350bp]{\colored[r=0.000,
> g=0.000, b=0.000]{\rm (Artifact)\\}}");
You use \rm here which is used to switch to the serif typeface. When
your goal is to enforce the upright alternative you use the wrong
command because you need \tf for this.
Wolfgang
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2020-05-01 11:22 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2020-05-01 11:58 ` Gerben Wierda
2020-05-01 13:43 ` Hans Hagen
2020-05-01 14:02 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Gerben Wierda @ 2020-05-01 11:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Wolfgang Schuster; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
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> On 1 May 2020, at 13:22, Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Gerben Wierda schrieb am 01.05.2020 um 13:15:
>> The following code:
>> \enabletrackers[context.trace]
>> %\usemodule[article-basic]
>> \starttypescript [sans] [optima]
>> \setups[font:fallback:sans]
>> \definefontsynonym [Sans] [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Regular)] [features=default]
>> \definefontsynonym [SansBold] [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Bold)] [features=default]
>> \definefontsynonym [SansItalic] [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Italic)] [features=default]
>> \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Bold Italic)] [features=default]
>> \stoptypescript
>> \definetypeface [optima] [ss] [sans] [optima] [default]
>
> Set a math font to avoid problems.
>
>> \setupbodyfont [optima]
>> \starttext
>> \startMPpage[instance=doublefun]
>> picture pic;
>> pic := textext("\definebodyfont[14.9pt][rm][default=Regular at 14.9pt]\switchtobodyfont[14.9pt]\setupinterlinespace[16.9pt]\framed[align=center,frame=off,offset=none,width=335.350bp]{\colored[r=0.000, g=0.000, b=0.000]{\rm (Artifact)\\}}");
>
> You use \rm here which is used to switch to the serif typeface. When your goal is to enforce the upright alternative you use the wrong command because you need \tf for this.
Thank you, that got me the right info on ConTeXtgarden. I now use \tf and:
\starttypescript [sans] [optima]
\setups[font:fallback:sans]
\definefontsynonym [Sans] [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Regular)] [features=default]
\definefontsynonym [SansBold] [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Bold)] [features=default]
\definefontsynonym [SansItalic] [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Italic)] [features=default]
\definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Bold Italic)] [features=default]
\stoptypescript
\definetypeface [optima] [ss] [sans] [optima] [default]
\definetypeface [optima] [rm] [serif] [optima] [default]
\definetypeface [optima] [tt] [mono] [modern] [default]
\definetypeface [optima] [mm] [math] [optima] [default]
\setupbodyfont [optima]
As I now understand it, I have now defined the typescript for sans, but created a setup that sans is the fallback. I have also defined rm, tt and mm explicitly.
But my guess is that if I had used ss instead of rm everywhere in my code it would have worked as well.
G
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2020-05-01 11:58 ` Gerben Wierda
@ 2020-05-01 13:43 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2020-05-01 13:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 5/1/2020 1:58 PM, Gerben Wierda wrote:
> But my guess is that if I had used ss instead of rm everywhere in my
> code it would have worked as well.
or define the ss first and don't use \rm (first defined is default)
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2020-05-01 11:58 ` Gerben Wierda
2020-05-01 13:43 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2020-05-01 14:02 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2020-05-01 16:19 ` Gerben Wierda
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2020-05-01 14:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Gerben Wierda schrieb am 01.05.2020 um 13:58:
>
> \definetypeface [optima] [ss] [sans] [optima] [default]
> \definetypeface [optima] [rm] [serif] [optima] [default]
> \definetypeface [optima] [tt] [mono] [modern] [default]
> \definetypeface [optima] [mm] [math] [optima] [default]
>
> \setupbodyfont [optima]
>
> As I now understand it, I have now defined the typescript for sans, but
> created a setup that sans is the fallback. I have also defined rm, tt
> and mm explicitly.
This does not work because you have no serif or math typescripts
for optima (\starttypescript [serif] [optima]) defined.
Wolfgang
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* Re: module article-basic interferes with \definebodyfont?
2020-05-01 14:02 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2020-05-01 16:19 ` Gerben Wierda
2020-05-01 18:01 ` Hans Hagen
2020-05-01 19:00 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Gerben Wierda @ 2020-05-01 16:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Wolfgang Schuster; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
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On 1 May 2020, at 16:02, Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Gerben Wierda schrieb am 01.05.2020 um 13:58:
>> \definetypeface [optima] [ss] [sans] [optima] [default]
>> \definetypeface [optima] [rm] [serif] [optima] [default]
>> \definetypeface [optima] [tt] [mono] [modern] [default]
>> \definetypeface [optima] [mm] [math] [optima] [default]
>> \setupbodyfont [optima]
>> As I now understand it, I have now defined the typescript for sans, but created a setup that sans is the fallback. I have also defined rm, tt and mm explicitly.
>
> This does not work because you have no serif or math typescripts
> for optima (\starttypescript [serif] [optima]) defined.
Yes, I was in doubt about that, but I guessed that the fallback maybe took care of that.
\setups[font:fallback:sans]
mm should be modern anyway, I think (not that I need it, I only want the ss form anyway).
G
>
> Wolfgang
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* Re: module article-basic interferes with \definebodyfont?
2020-05-01 16:19 ` Gerben Wierda
@ 2020-05-01 18:01 ` Hans Hagen
2020-05-01 21:33 ` Gerben Wierda
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2020-05-01 18:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 5/1/2020 6:19 PM, Gerben Wierda wrote:
> mm should be modern anyway, I think (not that I need it, I only want the
> ss form anyway).
use pagella math with optima, not modern
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2020-05-01 18:01 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2020-05-01 21:33 ` Gerben Wierda
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From: Gerben Wierda @ 2020-05-01 21:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> use pagella math with optima, not modern
>
Zo?
\definetypeface [optima] [mm] [math] [pagella] [default]
Ik gok, want documentatie die dat helder maakt heb ik niet. Er is geen uitleg in de manuals die bij de standalone context komen en op ContextGarden vond ik vooral mkii zaken die niet meer geldig/juist zijn.
G
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* Re: module article-basic interferes with \definebodyfont?
2020-05-01 21:33 ` Gerben Wierda
@ 2020-05-01 22:32 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2020-05-01 22:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Gerben Wierda
On 5/1/2020 11:33 PM, Gerben Wierda wrote:
>> use pagella math with optima, not modern
>>
> Zo?
>
> \definetypeface [optima] [mm] [math] [pagella] [default]
>
> Ik gok, want documentatie die dat helder maakt heb ik niet. Er is geen
> uitleg in de manuals die bij de standalone context komen en op
> ContextGarden vond ik voora l mkii zaken die niet meer geldig/juist zijn.
er is een dikke font manual en verder is er wolfgangs module (met
documentatie, ook op de wiki) maar meestal is een font setup vrij
simple: ik zelf pak gewoon een type-imp-* file, copieer wat regels en
vul dan de font file namen in; er zit ook allerhande font spul in de
test suite
(dutch answer to dutch question)
Hans
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* Re: module article-basic interferes with \definebodyfont?
2020-05-01 16:19 ` Gerben Wierda
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2020-05-01 19:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Gerben Wierda schrieb am 01.05.2020 um 18:19:
> On 1 May 2020, at 16:02, Wolfgang Schuster
> <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com
> <mailto:wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Gerben Wierda schrieb am 01.05.2020 um 13:58:
>>> \definetypeface [optima] [ss] [sans] [optima] [default]
>>> \definetypeface [optima] [rm] [serif] [optima] [default]
>>> \definetypeface [optima] [tt] [mono] [modern] [default]
>>> \definetypeface [optima] [mm] [math] [optima] [default]
>>> \setupbodyfont [optima]
>>> As I now understand it, I have now defined the typescript for sans,
>>> but created a setup that sans is the fallback. I have also defined
>>> rm, tt and mm explicitly.
>>
>> This does not work because you have no serif or math typescripts
>> for optima (\starttypescript [serif] [optima]) defined.
>
> Yes, I was in doubt about that, but I guessed that the fallback maybe
> took care of that.
>
> \setups[font:fallback:sans]
>
> mm should be modern anyway, I think (not that I need it, I only want the
> ss form anyway).
This has still nothing to do with the serif/roman style,
what the setup does is to map the slanted and boldslanted
alternatives to the italic files. You can achieve the same
with two additional \definefontsynonym lines for "SansSlanted"
and "SansBoldSlanted".
Wolfgang
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* Re: module article-basic interferes with \definebodyfont?
2020-05-01 11:15 module article-basic interferes with \definebodyfont? Gerben Wierda
2020-05-01 11:22 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2020-05-01 11:31 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2020-05-01 11:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 5/1/2020 1:15 PM, Gerben Wierda wrote:
> The following code:
>
> \enabletrackers[context.trace]
>
> %\usemodule[article-basic]
>
> \starttypescript [sans] [optima]
> \setups[font:fallback:sans]
> \definefontsynonym [Sans] [file:Optima.ttc(Optima
> Regular)] [features=default]
> \definefontsynonym [SansBold] [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Bold)]
> [features=default]
> \definefontsynonym [SansItalic] [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Italic)]
> [features=default]
> \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Bold
> Italic)] [features=default]
> \stoptypescript
>
> \definetypeface [optima] [ss] [sans] [optima] [default]
\definetypeface [optima] [rm] [sans] [optima] [default]
\definetypeface [optima] [tt] [mono] [dejavu]
> \setupbodyfont [optima]
>
> \starttext
>
> \startMPpage[instance=doublefun]
> picture pic;
> pic := textext("\definebodyfont[14.9pt][rm][default=Regular at
> 14.9pt]\switchtobodyfont[14.9pt]\setupinterlinespace[16.9pt]\framed[align=center,frame=off,offset=none,width=335.350bp]{\colored[r=0.000,
> g=0.000, b=0.000]{\rm (Artifact)\\}}");
> draw pic scaled 1.13;
> \stopMPpage
>
> \stoptext
>
> Produces nice Optima at 14.9pt without \usemodule[article-basic] (as
> above), but with \usemodule[article-basic] included, the output becomes
> some serif (modern?) font, /but only if I use nonstandard font sizes/.
>
> Took me some time to hunt this one down.
>
> I actually don’t know what article-basic does for me (I started out with
> an example given to me by Hans) and I don’t need it now, but I might
> need it later in combination with my own stuff
>
> G
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