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Thank you and please pardon me. I tried to modify the mapping of 0x2016 to 0xFF605, but since I don't unde= rstand the way or where 0xFF605 is constructed, I didn't get any result. 0x2016 is described in char-def.lua, and in font-agl.lua. FF605 is referred to only in math-vfu.lua. Maybe if Hans has a little time, he can explain where the double vertical b= ar is constructed: the problem is that these bars are scaled swelled (or En= glish) rules rather than bars as in Latin Modern. Since more and more people are going to use only mkiv, this issue can be an= noying for mathematical typesetting. Best regards: OK On 19 janv. 2011, at 17:44, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > On Tue, 18 Jan 2011, Otared Kavian wrote: > = >> Dear Aditya, dear Hans, >> = >> I noticed a serious difference between what one gets for \left\Vert in m= kii and in mkiv. >> Probably this is due to the fact that in mkiv the glyph for \Vert is con= structed in a different manner, but as far as I know from what I see in the= mathematical printed materials, the correct one, or the expected one, is t= he output from mkii. > = > I don't know why the glyphs are different. In MkIV, the virtual font is m= apping 0x2016 to 0xFF605, but I don't know how FF605 is created. > = >> Is there a way to redefine locally \Vert (or \|) so that in mkiv one get= s the same output as with mkii? > = > Not locally. You could change math-vfu.lua to change the mapping, but I d= on't completely understand how those work (with the virtual glyphs like FF6= 05) > = > Aditya > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to= the Wiki! > = > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-co= ntext > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-cont= ext webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________