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* Tagged PDF
@ 2012-07-10  2:26 Wray, Paul
  2012-07-10  6:35 ` Shriramana Sharma
  2012-07-10  8:03 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Wray, Paul @ 2012-07-10  2:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello all

First of all I must say that I am a complete newbie to the TeX world. 

I am evaluating Context for generation of PDFs for educational use. We
aim to produce PDFs that are accessible to screen reader users and for
that reason we would like to create tagged PDFs. My initial experiments
with tagged PDF have so far been unsuccessful. 

I am using ConTeXT standalone,  (ConTeXT ver: 2012.07.07 MKIV
fmt:2012.7.8 int: english/english ).

 

I am using this tex file as a test input (have left in line breaks in
case that is significant):

 

\setupstructure[state=start]

 

\starttext

\startbodymatter

 

\startchapter[title=Chapter 1]

The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.

\stopchapter

 

\startchapter[title=Chapter 2]

Now is the time for all good people to come to the aid of the party.

\stopchapter

 

\stopbodymatter

\stoptext

 

When I open the resulting PDF in Adobe Acrobat 10.0.3 and show the tags
navigation pane, it says "No tags available". Can anyone suggest what I
am doing wrong? 

 

Paul Wray

 


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* Re: Tagged PDF
  2012-07-10  2:26 Tagged PDF Wray, Paul
@ 2012-07-10  6:35 ` Shriramana Sharma
  2012-07-10  8:03 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Shriramana Sharma @ 2012-07-10  6:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Wray, Paul <Paul.Wray@det.nsw.edu.au> wrote:
> We aim to produce PDFs that are accessible to screen reader users and for
> that reason we would like to create tagged PDFs.

I would also like to see tagged PDFs because I use Indic scripts which
have a non-linear character-glyph correspondence, so without tags PDF
content is not copy-pastable to other applications. I would also like
to be able to enable tagged PDF production where the underlying
character sequences is embedded in the PDF. I understand this will
increase the PDF size and it is not an issue for me, but being able to
copy-paste is.

Thanks!

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* Re: Tagged PDF
  2012-07-10  2:26 Tagged PDF Wray, Paul
  2012-07-10  6:35 ` Shriramana Sharma
@ 2012-07-10  8:03 ` Hans Hagen
  2012-07-11  2:35   ` Wray, Paul
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2012-07-10  8:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 10-7-2012 04:26, Wray, Paul wrote:

> \setupstructure[state=start]

it's

\setuptagging[state=start]


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* Re: Tagged PDF
  2012-07-10  8:03 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2012-07-11  2:35   ` Wray, Paul
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From: Wray, Paul @ 2012-07-11  2:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Hans Hagen, mailing list for ConTeXt users

Thanks, that works now. 
I will also need to emit accessible alternate text for images, but this
is not a tag in its own right, it appears to be an attribute of the
<figure> tag. Is this possible?


Paul



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Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Tagged PDF

On 10-7-2012 04:26, Wray, Paul wrote:

> \setupstructure[state=start]

it's

\setuptagging[state=start]


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* Re: Tagged PDF
  2013-08-15  7:05 ` Aditya Mahajan
@ 2013-08-15  8:40   ` Peter Rolf
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From: Peter Rolf @ 2013-08-15  8:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 15.08.2013 09:05, schrieb Aditya Mahajan:
> On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, D. K. wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> in my quest to generate tagged pdf's that meet nowaday's accessibility
>> requirements (it seems to me that tags are the major hurdle when using
>> tex), I came around context.
>>
>> There is a very interesting article on how to generate tagged pdf's with
>> context mkiv.
>> http://www.tug.org/TUGboat/tb31-3/tb99hagen.pdf
>>
>> A quick sample run of the examples shown in the above pdf with context
>> however doesn't yield a nice result. Checking with the pdf accessibility
>> checker
>> http://www.access-for-all.ch/en/pdf-lab/pdf-accessibility-checker-pac.html
>>
>> for example, the generated pdf fails completely and is not considered
>> to be
>> tagged.
>>
>> Could someone point me in the right direction? Is there any kind of
>> tutorial or minimal example from where I could work on? Are there any
>> (hidden) options that need to be set in order to activate tagging
>> support?
> 
> Have you seen http://wiki.contextgarden.net/PDFX
>

Tagging is part of PDF/A, but the interface is the same.

"pdf/a-1a:2005" and "pdf/a-1b:2005" are the used 'format' names for
PDF/A. Never used it myself, so I can't tell much about it.

Peter
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* Re: Tagged PDF
  2013-08-14 21:17 D. K.
@ 2013-08-15  7:05 ` Aditya Mahajan
  2013-08-15  8:40   ` Peter Rolf
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From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2013-08-15  7:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, D. K. wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> in my quest to generate tagged pdf's that meet nowaday's accessibility
> requirements (it seems to me that tags are the major hurdle when using
> tex), I came around context.
>
> There is a very interesting article on how to generate tagged pdf's with
> context mkiv.
> http://www.tug.org/TUGboat/tb31-3/tb99hagen.pdf
>
> A quick sample run of the examples shown in the above pdf with context
> however doesn't yield a nice result. Checking with the pdf accessibility
> checker
> http://www.access-for-all.ch/en/pdf-lab/pdf-accessibility-checker-pac.html
> for example, the generated pdf fails completely and is not considered to be
> tagged.
>
> Could someone point me in the right direction? Is there any kind of
> tutorial or minimal example from where I could work on? Are there any
> (hidden) options that need to be set in order to activate tagging support?

Have you seen http://wiki.contextgarden.net/PDFX

Aditya
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* Tagged PDF
@ 2013-08-14 21:17 D. K.
  2013-08-15  7:05 ` Aditya Mahajan
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From: D. K. @ 2013-08-14 21:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi everyone,

in my quest to generate tagged pdf's that meet nowaday's accessibility
requirements (it seems to me that tags are the major hurdle when using
tex), I came around context.

There is a very interesting article on how to generate tagged pdf's with
context mkiv.
http://www.tug.org/TUGboat/tb31-3/tb99hagen.pdf

A quick sample run of the examples shown in the above pdf with context
however doesn't yield a nice result. Checking with the pdf accessibility
checker
http://www.access-for-all.ch/en/pdf-lab/pdf-accessibility-checker-pac.html
for example, the generated pdf fails completely and is not considered to be
tagged.

Could someone point me in the right direction? Is there any kind of
tutorial or minimal example from where I could work on? Are there any
(hidden) options that need to be set in order to activate tagging support?

kind regards

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* Re: Tagged PDF
  2011-03-08 19:31 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2011-03-08 19:39   ` Cecil Westerhof
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2011/3/8 Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com>

> > Is it possible to make tagged PDF's with ConTeXt?
>
> Yes but you need mkiv.
>
> You need \setupstructure[state=start] at the begin to enable it. It’s also
> important to use the start/stop commands (e.g. \startchapter) for headings.
>

Okay, thanks. I first need to 'finish' my e-book. But it is good to know
that I can create tagged PDF documents. (Handy for PDA's and the like.) I
see that I really need to upgrade to MKIV. Let's put a higher priority on
that. ;-}

-- 
Cecil Westerhof

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* Re: Tagged PDF
  2011-03-08 19:14 Cecil Westerhof
@ 2011-03-08 19:31 ` Wolfgang Schuster
  2011-03-08 19:39   ` Cecil Westerhof
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Am 08.03.2011 um 20:14 schrieb Cecil Westerhof:

> Is it possible to make tagged PDF's with ConTeXt?

Yes but you need mkiv.

You need \setupstructure[state=start] at the begin to enable it. It’s also important to use the start/stop commands (e.g. \startchapter) for headings.

Wolfgang

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* Tagged PDF
@ 2011-03-08 19:14 Cecil Westerhof
  2011-03-08 19:31 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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Is it possible to make tagged PDF's with ConTeXt?

-- 
Cecil Westerhof

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* Re: Tagged PDF
@ 2010-06-28 14:59 Hans.Hagen
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>
> --- Original message ---
> Subject: Tagged PDF
> From: Steffen Wolfrum <context@st.estfiles.de>
> To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
> Cc: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>
> Date: Monday, 28/06/2010  7:17 AM
>
>
> Am 20.01.2009 um 16:19 schrieb Arthur Reutenauer:
>
>>
>> Tagged PDF is indeed a problem
>> for the moment, but it's clearly not the feature your printer asks 
>> for,
>> and as a rule, you can be sure that if some functionality is essential
>> to publishers, it will be added quickly to ConTeXt :-)
>
>
>
> Hi Hans,
>
> these wise words were written 1 1/2 years ago ...  and publishers 
> indeed more and more often ask for that!
>
> For me, the only way to do tagging is with AcrobatPro.
>
> But as LuaTeX made so much progress in the last 18 month, maybe is 
> there also some break-through on this topic?
>
>

no as i don't need it and it's not something you implement for fun 
(only as part of a project) .. it's quite doable (unrelated to luatex 
i think) but boring

Hans

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* Tagged PDF
  2009-01-20 15:19       ` Arthur Reutenauer
@ 2010-06-28 14:15         ` Steffen Wolfrum
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Am 20.01.2009 um 16:19 schrieb Arthur Reutenauer:

> Tagged PDF is indeed a problem
> for the moment, but it's clearly not the feature your printer asks for,
> and as a rule, you can be sure that if some functionality is essential
> to publishers, it will be added quickly to ConTeXt :-)



Hi Hans,

these wise words were written 1 1/2 years ago ...  and publishers indeed more and more often ask for that!

For me, the only way to do tagging is with AcrobatPro. 

But as LuaTeX made so much progress in the last 18 month, maybe is there also some break-through on this topic?


Steffen

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