From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,URIBL_SBL_A autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 26085 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2023 16:20:32 -0000 Received: from cgl.ntg.nl (5.39.185.202) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 22 Aug 2023 16:20:32 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cgl.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC01B482CD1 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2023 18:19:20 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at cgl.ntg.nl Received: from cgl.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (cgl.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oPFmyi98etaQ for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2023 18:19:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from cgl.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cgl.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66CB6482A33 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2023 18:18:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cgl.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD2C648271E for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2023 18:18:20 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at cgl.ntg.nl Received: from cgl.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (cgl.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D-XhRmqIwttw for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2023 18:18:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ewsoutbound.kpnmail.nl (ewsoutbound.kpnmail.nl [195.121.94.167]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by cgl.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9216E482589 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2023 18:18:20 +0200 (CEST) X-KPN-MessageId: 6c62b7c9-4107-11ee-88a1-005056abbe64 Received: from smtp.kpnmail.nl (unknown [10.31.155.39]) by ewsoutbound.so.kpn.org (Halon) with ESMTPS id 6c62b7c9-4107-11ee-88a1-005056abbe64; Tue, 22 Aug 2023 18:17:43 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=xs4all.nl; s=xs4all01; h=content-type:from:to:subject:mime-version:date:message-id; bh=wuMh/IqsCKAeKj7ItFOYzfhCP2EKNExiLT3A+vN4LaI=; b=G8Opsb5hIyJa19Emh6voDIEQkwRof+5OPPQZpvnjRGysBX3+kZhxrhAYYY3OlwBgOwdXUsdXDsfOC hg5aau23maGSQXchMI/p4X6z6BxcEjoF54KaZs/axV0t7QPSFOlbX+Af0YBVazpTM6TZA7SNA/IPWX FDt1U3jchA7h8KUwLkBxJ/tmacIMyYZ2o/ka+uStqwXECIKLwyFodO0tH8XVeslf3LLrG8nVcZSD45 jpx0oOV5ZwUZy28LGrZ1d+pTpr8P4xlInSsrUA+WQ/nWDkn7n/TiJEuYVlsJZdk0ftCkFT7mEgXHUs 7Or6Zrx2ivL4LrJiaLflyDxPzer4Jow== X-KPN-MID: 33|dcJh2Esauce5UY2GxROx1hFBi7jf56rXlZlnLb6G9B40Th6CRDJwa1zipp+5siX NPn7gtEO+cHG0xed1ID4qaPUR3t4OLeZMJCg956+K1p0= X-KPN-VerifiedSender: Yes X-CMASSUN: 33|YIYD4Xcw6xQ6gvgse3W/mcdjGa04O2ckAOaQwC00KxFth+2kuSNnjwr7sKTClcL VgfN1BvidB7GgStNIsa1aBw== X-Originating-IP: 213.125.29.162 Received: from [10.100.1.105] (d57d1da2.static.ziggozakelijk.nl [213.125.29.162]) by smtp.xs4all.nl (Halon) with ESMTPSA id 8228e3a3-4107-11ee-bd1d-005056ab7447; Tue, 22 Aug 2023 18:18:20 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <055e7c6a-7227-7e86-a690-593ba73b4886@xs4all.nl> Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2023 18:18:19 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.14.0 Content-Language: en-US To: ntg-context@ntg.nl References: <067a4973-f495-a454-883d-c7d7c0bde484@freedom.nl> From: Hans Hagen In-Reply-To: Message-ID-Hash: CMVVWUMW4I52LBREC3UJ4LHSG6CB3G6L X-Message-ID-Hash: CMVVWUMW4I52LBREC3UJ4LHSG6CB3G6L X-MailFrom: j.hagen@xs4all.nl X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Subject: [NTG-context] Re: Fallbacks for design sizes in the current typescripts regime List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 8/22/2023 5:45 PM, Hamid,Idris wrote: > (OTOH, had previously seen yours and Mikael's sophisticated minion-math.lfg) It's not that complete and we only tested an old evaluation copy. Our policy wrt commercial fonts is now that we only look into them when we get (some 5) copies for context dev without any restriction of usage because we might want to show them in manuals or articles or presentations and there is no reason to spend time on them unlees we're paid for it. > I think that my version is/will be more complete - except for mathematics. Once some fine-tuning and additional testing is done, will donate the results to ConTeXt. Good. > As for free fonts. MinionPro Opticals should be considered an exception to the free-fonts rubric. After all, > > i) its multiple-master design base was inspired by MetaFont/Knuth, and hence > ii) it's very popular with TeXies. I don't have that font set and am not willing to spend money in it either. > Put another way, Minion Pro should be considered an honorary TeX typeface -) Hm, so we should honor a font vendor for that? Do font vendors expect texies to spend time on something they cannot use? Also, some of these commercial licenses have become pretty restrictive. With respect to spending time on something, the same is true for some tools: supporting acrobat, fonts, specific file formats, features etc ... one way tickets ... if we need it in a project i can waste the time on it, otherwise i rather spend the time on things we (and users) can actually use and have fun with. 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