From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/80870 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Keith J. 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Yet, ConTeXt is suppose to be more natural. Personally, I find some of the names used in TeX and LaTeX often hard to find. Whenever, I needed a function or symbol I to often go look it up. I mean that \vert and \Vert are still cryptic. They can stand for abs, for all in, etc. .. Me, I prefer names that reflect the their functions, regards Keith. Am 18.02.2013 um 10:51 schrieb Mikael P. Sundqvist : > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:42 AM, luigi scarso wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: >>> Indeed, luigi, but is that what you expect? >> Hm, hard to say for me. >> I find natural to use \vert and \Vert or, if possible, | and || . >> LaTeXt users find natural that \| is ||, but I don't see, as a ConTeXt >> user, a particular meaning in \| . >> > > I think that since \| is defined as \Vert in the TeXbook and everyone > writing mathematics in LaTeX are used to \| to mean \Vert there is no > reason to have different behaviour in ConTeXt. ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________