From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/41343 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Maurice Diamantini Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: markup format ---> ConTeXt Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 09:49:55 +0200 Message-ID: <096A26F0-9FE0-4356-A37A-8CACE7EAB917@ensta.fr> References: <87wslc424w.fsf@nitai.hr> <115224fb0806030043j5970e08bwc75d56b5b50acce3@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1212565949 3728 80.91.229.12 (4 Jun 2008 07:52:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 07:52:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Maurice Diamantini To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Jun 04 09:53:11 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K3nny-0004N4-1t for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2008 09:53:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF961FCB1; Wed, 4 Jun 2008 09:52:16 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 00288-01-4; Wed, 4 Jun 2008 09:51:48 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC89B1FC03; Wed, 4 Jun 2008 09:51:47 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 212CF1FB57 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2008 09:51:45 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 00288-01-3 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2008 09:51:07 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ns1.ensta.fr (ns1.ensta.fr [147.250.10.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B330F1FC03 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2008 09:51:06 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.ensta.fr [127.0.0.1]) by ns1.ensta.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70952314116; Wed, 4 Jun 2008 09:51:06 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ns1.ensta.fr Original-Received: from ns1.ensta.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns1.ensta.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5-c4+jQPH4qu; Wed, 4 Jun 2008 09:51:06 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail.ensta.fr (ensta.ensta.fr [147.250.1.1]) by ns1.ensta.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1885431410D; Wed, 4 Jun 2008 09:51:05 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ensta.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C66F218A9900; Wed, 4 Jun 2008 09:51:05 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ensta.fr Original-Received: from mail.ensta.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail1.ensta.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qvjzmS3p3GRD; Wed, 4 Jun 2008 09:51:05 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from uma33.ensta.fr (uma33 [147.250.33.133]) by mail.ensta.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF5C18A9938; Wed, 4 Jun 2008 09:51:05 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <115224fb0806030043j5970e08bwc75d56b5b50acce3@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:41343 Archived-At: First of all, thank you for your propositions, About markup format: -------------------- (---- a markdown header ;-) Markdown seems an interesting one because: - it's alive (as many other format) - it's available in severall scripting languages (ruby, php, python...) - it seems extensible - it is (more or less) translatable to docbook (and finaly to xxTeX) so allows good quality pdf results About docbook: -------------- But one current need is about docbook, because file already exists as a "dokuwiki hacked" generated file (by a php expert from jelix team) ! So other wiki format is not an option? docbook is request About the pandoc tools: ----------------------- Le 3 juin 08 =E0 16:09, Gour a =E9crit : > Take a look at http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/ - it uses 'extended' > markdown syntax and can export to ConTeXt. But Gour said alsewhere: > ...it doesn=92t handle tables,... Interesting, but a first try didn't compile with macport (GHC didn't compile). But not important: was just for trying... About dblatex tools ------------------- It just works for now but need LaTeX custom style for advanced = customisation which is much lower level than ConTeXt one, so... About ConTeXt tools (THE important information ;-)) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Le 3 juin 08 =E0 15:11, Hans Hagen a =E9crit : >> If some magic command (or a simple tutorial) like : >> texexec --docbook jelix-manual.xml >> do some equivalent work than the above dblatex, no doubt that the >> ConTeXt community will increase by more than 100%! > > i can probably cook up a basic docbook converter in a couple of hours > but since i never run into docbook ... So instead of the "not in ConTeXt objective" expected response, this is a great news. For all (docbook + ConTeXt) tool maintainers like "dbcontext" or = "DocbookInContext", it is a great opportunity to help Hans defining a standard module = which would then be maintain in the standard ConTeXt distribution. Other replies about dbcontext tools : ------------------------------------- Le 3 juin 08 =E0 09:43, Wolfgang Schuster a =E9crit : >> - dbcontext seams not to be maintained very much > > I don't think the code in the module is nowadays a good example for = > writing > a module because many low level commands are redefined and it should > work now out of the box with the current code or better witth MkIV. I thought so, but ... Le 3 juin 08 =E0 20:22, nico a =E9crit : >> - dbcontext seams not to be maintained very much > > dbcontext is still alive, but asleep because of few users, and mostly > works in the current state. You can give it a try. You can provide = > your > own context layout to customize section titles and layout. It is much > cleaner and easier than the latex .sty hack. As an example of the = > powerful > layout capabilities that ConTeXt provides, you can build a PDF with a > layout similar to what docbook FO does. So dbcontext resume in a ConTeXt module, it should be part od the = context distrib (as a contrib): see above about Hans response. -- Maurice ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-cont= ext webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________