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(8.106.113.82.net.de.o2.com [82.113.106.8]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 3sm4777124fge.52.2009.02.19.06.28.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 19 Feb 2009 06:28:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <68bfdc900902190536s17775050r4064149a5547608c@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=72.14.220.156; country=US; region=CA; city=Mountain View; postalcode=94043; latitude=37.4192; longitude=-122.0574; metrocode=807; areacode=650; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4192,-122.0574&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 182406912 - fb69bbb0cb4e X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.218 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:47528 Archived-At: Am 19.02.2009 um 14:36 schrieb Yue Wang: >> On the other hand, as Yanrui's sample seems to be much better than >> mine, >> I made an illustration of Japanese typesetting rule on his sample: >> http://people.ktug.or.kr/~nomos/mine/japanesetypesetting.png . >> I guess that Chinese typesetting practice is not much different >> from this one. > > Maybe it is different (I have no idea about Japanese typesetting, I > can only speak Chinese, English, and Korean). > - There are no "halfwidth punctuation" in most Chinese fonts. All the > glyphs in those fonts are of same width. Only a small portion of > Chinese fonts (like Adobe's OpenType fonts) contain these glyphs in > certain features. > - halfwidth glyph+0.5em minus0.5em ( = 1em) is not right, the > punctuation should be compressed. some combinations like ：" > should > also be compressed. What method do you want to use. 1. Make a punctuation half width and insert space between them, e.g. 組版\hbox to .5em{」\hss}\hbox to .5em{。\hss} \hskip .5em\hbox to .5em{\hss「}原則 2. Let the punctuation full width and kern char combinations, e.g. 組版」\kern.5em。\kern.5em「原則 Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________