From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/76780 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Rogers, Michael K" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Confused again :-) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:34:30 +0000 Message-ID: <0BAB9C25-928A-464C-81C3-EA65854081DB@emory.edu> References: <4FD0FDCB.30000@gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1339097687 29175 80.91.229.3 (7 Jun 2012 19:34:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:34:47 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Jun 07 21:34:45 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SciTi-0000je-C0 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 21:34:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD6A1101E7; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 21:34:41 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Vj+uaXh7gBDk; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 21:34:39 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CAAA101E1; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 21:34:39 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57101101E1 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 21:34:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id msPP3wnw-5cY for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 21:34:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter5-til.mf.surf.net (filter5-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.221]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD9B101E0 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 21:34:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ndb-mr1.cc.emory.edu (ndb-mr1.cc.emory.edu [170.140.52.40]) by filter5-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id q57JYOIP007280 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 21:34:26 +0200 Original-Received: from e14edge2w.Emory.Edu (emoryfloatdmz.cc.emory.edu [170.140.52.254]) by ndb-mr1.cc.emory.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q57JYVQO004990 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 15:34:31 -0400 Original-Received: from E14CH1N.Enterprise.emory.net (10.240.8.113) by e14edge2w.Emory.Edu (170.140.108.22) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.283.3; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 15:34:31 -0400 Original-Received: from E14MBX20N.Enterprise.emory.net ([fe80::e9ea:8c9d:f94e:7cd3]) by e14ch1n.Enterprise.emory.net ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0283.003; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 15:34:31 -0400 Thread-Topic: [NTG-context] Confused again :-) Thread-Index: AQHNROHtEp8sfBu9XEGT7/Kklg9X85bvgmcA In-Reply-To: <4FD0FDCB.30000@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [170.140.30.131] Content-ID: <5758767650D40747925116A150C6E7D1@Enterprise.emory.net> X-Emory-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Emory-MailScanner-ID: q57JYVQO004990 X-Emory-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Emory-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-0.01, required 8, autolearn=disabled, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD -0.01) X-Emory-MailScanner-From: mroge02@emory.edu X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=170.140.52.40; country=US; region=GA; city=Atlanta; postalcode=30322; latitude=33.7952; longitude=-84.3248; metrocode=524; areacode=404; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=33.7952,-84.3248&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0WHjvypub - c42c64f6e8c3 - 20120607 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.221 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:76780 Archived-At: On Jun 7, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Bill Meahan wrote: > I'm getting a handle on page layout and headings but there are some things I haven't figured out. > > 1) How does one specify they want the "outer" margin to be a different size than the "inner" margin? "Outer," of course, is the right margin on a right-hand (odd) page and the left margin on a left-hand (even) page. > > 2) How does one put a frame around a margin? Layers? Overlay? \framedtext? > > 3) Am I correct I can use the "COMMAND" parameters in \setuplayout to specify there is some text to use as a marginal in the (chapter | section) header (using \margintext, I presume)? > > I am working on a couple of novels I want to typeset using ConTeXt since I think it will allow me to produce what I want for typographic style much easier than using LaTeX. I'm pretty adept at using LaTeX but brand new to ConTeXt. One of _my_ problems is so many examples on the wiki seem oriented towards people setting math which could not be farther from my intended usages. (Not that I'm unfamiliar with math, I have a degree in Physics and would have had a double degree in math except for a choice to take a different course (helpful in physics) instead of one mandatory for the math degree). > > Thanks! > > -- > Bill Meahan K8QN 1) You might want to look through Ch. 3 in the manual. The dimension called "backspace" is sometimes described as the space between the spine and the text, and sometimes as the space to the left. But the manual shows various ways to set up ConTeXt for books. It should help you. One place to get it is http://www.tug.org/texlive/Contents/live/texmf-dist/doc/context/manuals/reference/en/contextref.pdf 2, 3) I'll let experts tell you. Strangely, my intended products are math, and I find ConTeXt has too many examples aimed at general printing problems (books, brochures, ...) that I'm not interested in producing. Maybe LaTeX is the same way. I learned Plain TeX before there was LaTeX.... 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