part problems

part problems

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

(MkIV, latest beta)

I'm trying to get a title page for book parts:

\def\FPart#1#2{#2}

\setupheads	[align=right, tolerance=verytolerant,
		before=\nohyphen\startlinecorrection,
		after=\stoplinecorrection, number=no]
\setuphead[part][command=\FPart, page=right, style={\bfc}]

\part{My First Part}


But the page is empty, also without "command", also with a suitable  
"textcommand", also without "style".


Next problem:
In my ToC I get "Part  My First Part". (Or "Part 1  My First Part", if  
I enable the number.)
How can I suppress that piece of text ("Part")?


Generally, what's the best approach to get a fixed font size for some  
titles, e.g. the part title should have 64 pt.
Should I use \setuphead[part][before={\switchtobodyfont[64pt]}] ?


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Re: part problems

[Wolfgang Schuster]

  Am 30.07.10 19:30, schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:
> (MkIV, latest beta)
>
> I'm trying to get a title page for book parts:
>
> \def\FPart#1#2{#2}
>
> \setupheads    [align=right, tolerance=verytolerant,
>         before=\nohyphen\startlinecorrection,
>         after=\stoplinecorrection, number=no]
> \setuphead[part][command=\FPart, page=right, style={\bfc}]
>
> \part{My First Part}
>
>
> But the page is empty, also without "command", also with a suitable 
> "textcommand", also without "style".
\setuphead[part][placehead=yes]

To disable hyphenation in headers you can set 'align={right,nothyphenated}'.
> Next problem:
> In my ToC I get "Part  My First Part". (Or "Part 1  My First Part", if 
> I enable the number.)
> How can I suppress that piece of text ("Part")?

\setuplist[part][label=no]
> Generally, what's the best approach to get a fixed font size for some 
> titles, e.g. the part title should have 64 pt.
> Should I use \setuphead[part][before={\switchtobodyfont[64pt]}] ?
\definefont[PartStyle][Serif sa 64pt]

\setuphead[part][style=PartStyle]

Wolfgang

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Re: part problems

[luigi scarso]

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Wolfgang Schuster
<schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:
>  Am 30.07.10 19:30, schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:
>>
>> (MkIV, latest beta)
>>
>> I'm trying to get a title page for book parts:
>>
>> \def\FPart#1#2{#2}
>>
>> \setupheads    [align=right, tolerance=verytolerant,
>>        before=\nohyphen\startlinecorrection,
>>        after=\stoplinecorrection, number=no]
>> \setuphead[part][command=\FPart, page=right, style={\bfc}]
>>
>> \part{My First Part}
>>
>>
>> But the page is empty, also without "command", also with a suitable
>> "textcommand", also without "style".
>
> \setuphead[part][placehead=yes]
Hm, Hraban needs really to come to Brejlov

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Re: part problems

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Thank you!

Am 2010-07-30 um 22:37 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>> I'm trying to get a title page for book parts:
>> But the page is empty, also without "command", also with a suitable  
>> "textcommand", also without "style".
> \setuphead[part][placehead=yes]

Good

> To disable hyphenation in headers you can set  
> 'align={right,nothyphenated}'.

Even better ;-)

>> In my ToC I get "Part  My First Part". (Or "Part 1  My First Part",  
>> if I enable the number.)
>> How can I suppress that piece of text ("Part")?
> \setuplist[part][label=no]

also good

>> Generally, what's the best approach to get a fixed font size for  
>> some titles, e.g. the part title should have 64 pt.
>> Should I use \setuphead[part][before={\switchtobodyfont[64pt]}] ?
> \definefont[PartStyle][Serif sa 64pt]
> \setuphead[part][style=PartStyle]

That doesn't work. I get:

structure       : part @ level 1 : 1 -> Märchen
! Missing number, treated as zero.
<to be read again>
                    \edef
\lowleveldefinefont ... \scaledfontsize \fi \edef
                                                   \somefontspec {at  
\number ...
\dododefinefont ...inefont {#2}\rawfontidentifier
                                                   \csname  
\rawfontidentifier...
\dosetfontattribute ...me #1#2\@EA \endcsname \fi
                                                   \empty
\doplacestructureheadtext ...ucturehead }\c!style
                                                    
\structureheadparameter \c...
\dohandlestructurehead ...\placestructureheadtext
                                                   \fi  
\dostructureheadspacin...
l.9 \part{Märchen}


Did you mean "Serif at 64pt"? That works.


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Re: part problems

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 2010-07-30 um 22:46 schrieb luigi scarso:

> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Wolfgang Schuster
> <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>  Am 30.07.10 19:30, schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:
>>>
>>> (MkIV, latest beta)
>>>
>>> I'm trying to get a title page for book parts:
>>>
>>> \def\FPart#1#2{#2}
>>>
>>> \setupheads    [align=right, tolerance=verytolerant,
>>>        before=\nohyphen\startlinecorrection,
>>>        after=\stoplinecorrection, number=no]
>>> \setuphead[part][command=\FPart, page=right, style={\bfc}]
>>>
>>> \part{My First Part}
>>>
>>>
>>> But the page is empty, also without "command", also with a suitable
>>> "textcommand", also without "style".
>>
>> \setuphead[part][placehead=yes]
> Hm, Hraban needs really to come to Brejlov

Because I can't read the docs?
Sorry.
I browsed so much in wiki, source and reference that I'm confused ;-)
Coming back to ConTeXt after a while for a new project is always a bit  
hard - a new program every time ;-)
And yes, I'll try to come to Brejlov, still waiting for an answer from  
my lift...

Greetlings, Hraban

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Re: part problems

[luigi scarso]

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm <hraban@fiee.net> wrote:

> And yes, I'll try to come to Brejlov, still waiting for an answer from my
> lift...
good.

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Re: part problems

[Alan BRASLAU]

On Friday 30 July 2010 23:00:16 Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> Am 2010-07-30 um 22:46 schrieb luigi scarso:
> > 
> > Hm, Hraban needs really to come to Brejlov
> 
> And yes, I'll try to come to Brejlov, still waiting for an answer from
> my lift...

Using parts is not as simple as it seems and is still somewhat problematic,
or maybe I, too, am unable to read the source.

Will someone be giving a special lecture on structure?

As to the lift, I am almost decided to indeed drive as we are for now
at least three...

Alan
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Re: part problems

[Hans Hagen]

On 31-7-2010 1:08, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
> On Friday 30 July 2010 23:00:16 Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
>> Am 2010-07-30 um 22:46 schrieb luigi scarso:
>>>
>>> Hm, Hraban needs really to come to Brejlov
>>
>> And yes, I'll try to come to Brejlov, still waiting for an answer from
>> my lift...
>
> Using parts is not as simple as it seems and is still somewhat problematic,
> or maybe I, too, am unable to read the source.

parts are just like chapters and sections; the defaults are just set up 
differently; don't think of them as something programatically different



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Re: part problems

[Alan BRASLAU]

On Saturday 31 July 2010 11:20:38 Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 31-7-2010 1:08, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
> > 
> > Using parts is not as simple as it seems and is still somewhat
> > problematic, or maybe I, too, am unable to read the source.
> 
> parts are just like chapters and sections; the defaults are just set up
> differently; don't think of them as something programatically different
> 

Some logical subtleties, though, reflecting the different use either as "part" 
or as "volume":


A book (or single volume) may contain several parts, each one containing 
several chapters. One may wish to number the chapters subsequently, 
independent of the part structure.

This is no problem:
  \definestructureresetset [default] [0,0] [1] % do not reset parts and 
chapters
(although the syntax is somewhat obscure here).
also
  \setuphead [part]
             [sectionresetset=default,conversion=Romannumerals,placehead=yes]
and
  \setuphead [chapter,section,subsection] [sectionsegments=2:100]
  \setuppagenumbering [alternative=doublesided,way=bytext,partnumber=no]
(this is what Hans refers to as defaults that are set up differently).

[By the way, the default pagenumbering by part is a very reasonable default, 
as is resetting chapter numbering by part, for often "part" is synonymous with 
"volume". But not always: sometimes a book is to be broken into parts within a 
single volume.]


Now the front matter and the back matter are common to the entire book, 
logically part-less (if part is not to be taken as volume).  The front matter 
may contain chapter(s) (preface, introduction, definitions) that may be 
unnumbered.  The back matter will contain appendices (numbered), an index or 
indexes (unnumbered), etc.

For now, I have found no better way then to use funny definitions:
  \definehead [frontchapter] [chapter] % to get around broken bookmarks
  \setuphead  [frontchapter] [incrementnumber=list]
  \definehead [unnumberedchapter] [chapter]
  \setuphead  [unnumberedchapter] [incrementnumber=list]
  \definehead [unnumberedpart] [part]
  \setuphead  [unnumberedpart] [incrementnumber=list,label=no]
  \definecombinedlist [content]
    [part,unnumberedpart,frontchapter,unnumberedchapter,chapter,section,subsection,subsubsection]
  \setuplist 
[part,unnumberedpart,frontchapter,unnumberedchapter,chapter,section,subsection,subsubsection]
    [alternative=c, % number – title – dots – pagenumber
     interaction=all]


A problem comes up when I want the main body parts to be labeled, as well as 
chapters, as in:
  \setuphead [part]
    [sectionresetset=default,conversion=Romannumerals,placehead=yes]
  \setuplabeltext [chapter=Chapter ] % with trailing space; blank by default
  \startsectionblockenvironment[bodypart]
    \setuplist [chapter]  [label=yes]
  \stopsectionblockenvironment


You see, what should be natural (and probably the default) quickly gets to be 
a bit complicated. Furthermore, I have not yet been able to get everything 
that I want working. In the end, I'm sure that the solution will be quite 
easy.

My point is that the use of \part (or, now, \startpart ... \stoppart) is not 
as simple and obvious as it should be.

Alan
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Re: part problems

[Hans Hagen]

On 1-8-2010 10:20, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
> On Saturday 31 July 2010 11:20:38 Hans Hagen wrote:
>> On 31-7-2010 1:08, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
>>>
>>> Using parts is not as simple as it seems and is still somewhat
>>> problematic, or maybe I, too, am unable to read the source.
>>
>> parts are just like chapters and sections; the defaults are just set up
>> differently; don't think of them as something programatically different
>>
>
> Some logical subtleties, though, reflecting the different use either as "part"
> or as "volume":
>
>
> A book (or single volume) may contain several parts, each one containing
> several chapters. One may wish to number the chapters subsequently,
> independent of the part structure.
>
> This is no problem:
>    \definestructureresetset [default] [0,0] [1] % do not reset parts and
> chapters
> (although the syntax is somewhat obscure here).
> also
>    \setuphead [part]
>               [sectionresetset=default,conversion=Romannumerals,placehead=yes]
> and
>    \setuphead [chapter,section,subsection] [sectionsegments=2:100]
>    \setuppagenumbering [alternative=doublesided,way=bytext,partnumber=no]
> (this is what Hans refers to as defaults that are set up differently).
>
> [By the way, the default pagenumbering by part is a very reasonable default,
> as is resetting chapter numbering by part, for often "part" is synonymous with
> "volume". But not always: sometimes a book is to be broken into parts within a
> single volume.]
>
>
> Now the front matter and the back matter are common to the entire book,
> logically part-less (if part is not to be taken as volume).  The front matter
> may contain chapter(s) (preface, introduction, definitions) that may be
> unnumbered.  The back matter will contain appendices (numbered), an index or
> indexes (unnumbered), etc.
>
> For now, I have found no better way then to use funny definitions:
>    \definehead [frontchapter] [chapter] % to get around broken bookmarks
>    \setuphead  [frontchapter] [incrementnumber=list]
>    \definehead [unnumberedchapter] [chapter]
>    \setuphead  [unnumberedchapter] [incrementnumber=list]
>    \definehead [unnumberedpart] [part]
>    \setuphead  [unnumberedpart] [incrementnumber=list,label=no]
>    \definecombinedlist [content]
>      [part,unnumberedpart,frontchapter,unnumberedchapter,chapter,section,subsection,subsubsection]
>    \setuplist
> [part,unnumberedpart,frontchapter,unnumberedchapter,chapter,section,subsection,subsubsection]
>      [alternative=c, % number – title – dots – pagenumber
>       interaction=all]
>
>
> A problem comes up when I want the main body parts to be labeled, as well as
> chapters, as in:
>    \setuphead [part]
>      [sectionresetset=default,conversion=Romannumerals,placehead=yes]
>    \setuplabeltext [chapter=Chapter ] % with trailing space; blank by default
>    \startsectionblockenvironment[bodypart]
>      \setuplist [chapter]  [label=yes]
>    \stopsectionblockenvironment

The problem is always that easier setups also lead to more options 
(undocumented) that when explained lead to the previous code.

At some point we can thing of some 'common preset' but I'm not yet sure 
how to implement that.

btw, there is:

\setupstructurehead
   [chapter]
   [appendixlabel=appendix,
    bodypartlabel=chapter]


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