Dumb quotes and dashes, globally and in verbatim text

Dumb quotes and dashes, globally and in verbatim text

[Philipp A.]

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so i want to use ' and -- in my code, which is embedded via \starttyping
\stoptyping, but that’s impossible.
context replaces -- with – and ' with ’. that’s wrong. i need to be able to
tell context it shouldn’t do any “smart” stuff, since i’m smart enough to
press the ’-key if i want the character ’.

so what i ask for:

   1. we should change the standard behavior of context to “don’t replace
   --, ' and whatnot in verbatim areas”
   2. we should be able to trigger this globally, for people who have a
   useful keyboard layout and can type “special” characters as fast as ascii.

is the latter already built in somehow?

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Re: Dumb quotes and dashes, globally and in verbatim text

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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Am 21.12.2010 um 12:14 schrieb Philipp A.:

> so i want to use ' and -- in my code, which is embedded via \starttyping \stoptyping, but that’s impossible.
> context replaces -- with – and ' with ’. that’s wrong. i need to be able to tell context it shouldn’t do any “smart” stuff, since i’m smart enough to press the ’-key if i want the character ’.
> 
> so what i ask for:
> we should change the standard behavior of context to “don’t replace --, ' and whatnot in verbatim areas”
> we should be able to trigger this globally, for people who have a useful keyboard layout and can type “special” characters as fast as ascii.
> is the latter already built in somehow?

Make a example where this occurs, in the following example all dashes are correct in the typing environment with mkii and mkiv.

\starttext

\startlines
-
--
---
\stoplines

\starttyping
-
--
---
\stoptyping

\stoptext

Wolfgang



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Re: Dumb quotes and dashes, globally and in verbatim text

[Philipp A.]

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2010/12/21 Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com>

> Make a example where this occurs, in the following example all dashes are
> correct in the typing environment with mkii and mkiv.
>
> \starttext
>
> \startlines
> -
> --
> ---
> \stoplines
>
> \starttyping
> -
> --
> ---
> \stoptyping
>
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang
>

ok, sorry, \type{--} doesn’t work. (i thought i used the environment, but i
only used the macro)

it should work in \type, too, though.

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Re: Dumb quotes and dashes, globally and in verbatim text

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 21.12.2010 um 15:19 schrieb Philipp A.:

> ok, sorry, \type{--} doesn’t work. (i thought i used the environment, but i only used the macro)
> 
> it should work in \type, too, though.

For mkii you need the texnansi encoding for the fonts, mkiv has no problems with \type
but haven’t told which engine you use neither did you provide a full example.

Run this and you will get the correct output for \type:

\usetypescript[modern][texnansi]
\setupbodyfont[modern]
\starttext
- \type{-} -- \type{--} --- \type{---}
\stoptext

Wolfgang


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Re: Dumb quotes and dashes, globally and in verbatim text

[Philipp A.]

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2010/12/21 Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com>

> For mkii you need the texnansi encoding for the fonts, mkiv has no problems
> with \type
> but haven’t told which engine you use neither did you provide a full
> example.
>
> Run this and you will get the correct output for \type:
>
> \usetypescript[modern][texnansi]
> \setupbodyfont[modern]
> \starttext
> - \type{-} -- \type{--} --- \type{---}
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang
>

i use mkiv, specifically the version you get via ./first-setup.sh
--extras="t-simplefonts,t-tikz"

i now found out that the simplefonts module cuses this:

\usemodule[simplefonts]
\starttext
\type{--}
\stoptext

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Re: Dumb quotes and dashes, globally and in verbatim text

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 22.12.2010 um 13:13 schrieb Philipp A.:

> i now found out that the simplefonts module cuses this:

I’ll fix this, \setmonofont use the wrong font features.

Wolfgang

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