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=46rom Wikipedia:

In English-language =
<safari-reader://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language> outside North =
America (mostly in Anglophone Europe and some countries in Australasia), =
full dates are written as 7 December 1941 (or 7th December 1941) and =
spoken as "the seventh of December, nineteen forty-one" (exceedingly =
common usage of "the" and "of"), with the occasional [my emphasis] usage =
of December 7, 1941 ("December the seventh, nineteen forty-one"). In =
common with most continental European usage, however, all-numeric dates =
are invariably ordered dd/mm/yyyy.

=46rom this I infer that \language[en] or \language[en-gb] should format =
dates normally in day-month-year order, reserving mont-day-year for =
\language[us] i.e. language[en-us].

But in ConTeXt both \language[en] and \language[en-gb] produce the us =
ordering for \currentdate. I would be pleased if ConTeXt could be =
changed to the above mentioned normal behaviour for english. That is =
[en] and [en-gb] produce the day-month-year order and that [us] and =
[en-us] month-day-year.

dr. Hans van der Meer



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break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" =
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font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: =
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orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><span=
 style=3D"color: rgb(79, 50, 28); caret-color: rgb(79, 50, 28); =
font-family: -apple-system-font; background-color: rgb(248, 241, 227);" =
class=3D"">In&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"safari-reader://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language" =
title=3D"English language" data-reader-unique-id=3D"741" style=3D"color: =
rgb(209, 150, 0); text-decoration: none; max-width: 100%; font-family: =
-apple-system-font;" class=3D"">English-language</a><span style=3D"color: =
rgb(79, 50, 28); caret-color: rgb(79, 50, 28); font-family: =
-apple-system-font; background-color: rgb(248, 241, 227);" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;outside North America (mostly in Anglophone Europe and =
some countries in Australasia), full dates are written as&nbsp;</span><i =
data-reader-unique-id=3D"742" style=3D"color: rgb(79, 50, 28); =
max-width: 100%; caret-color: rgb(79, 50, 28); font-family: =
-apple-system-font;" class=3D"">7 December 1941</i><span style=3D"color: =
rgb(79, 50, 28); caret-color: rgb(79, 50, 28); font-family: =
-apple-system-font; background-color: rgb(248, 241, 227);" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;(or&nbsp;</span><i data-reader-unique-id=3D"743" =
style=3D"color: rgb(79, 50, 28); max-width: 100%; caret-color: rgb(79, =
50, 28); font-family: -apple-system-font;" class=3D"">7th December =
1941</i><span style=3D"color: rgb(79, 50, 28); caret-color: rgb(79, 50, =
28); font-family: -apple-system-font; background-color: rgb(248, 241, =
227);" class=3D"">) and spoken as "the seventh of December, nineteen =
forty-one" (exceedingly common usage of "the" and "of"), with the =
</span><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(79, 50, 28); font-family: =
-apple-system-font; background-color: rgb(248, 241, 227);" =
class=3D""><font color=3D"#e32400" =
class=3D"">occasional</font></span><span style=3D"color: rgb(79, 50, =
28); caret-color: rgb(79, 50, 28); font-family: -apple-system-font; =
background-color: rgb(248, 241, 227);" class=3D"">&nbsp;[my emphasis] =
usage of&nbsp;</span><i data-reader-unique-id=3D"744" style=3D"color: =
rgb(79, 50, 28); max-width: 100%; caret-color: rgb(79, 50, 28); =
font-family: -apple-system-font;" class=3D"">December 7, 1941</i><span =
style=3D"color: rgb(79, 50, 28); caret-color: rgb(79, 50, 28); =
font-family: -apple-system-font; background-color: rgb(248, 241, 227);" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;("December the seventh, nineteen forty-one"). In common =
with most continental European usage, however, all-numeric dates are =
invariably ordered dd/mm/yyyy.</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, =
0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: =
break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">=46rom this I infer that \language[en] or \language[en-gb] =
should format dates normally in day-month-year order, reserving =
mont-day-year for \language[us] i.e. language[en-us].</div><div =
style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: =
normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: =
break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">But in ConTeXt both \<span style=3D"text-align: =
-webkit-auto;" class=3D"">language[en] and \language[en-gb] produce the =
us ordering for \currentdate. I would be pleased if ConTeXt could be =
changed to the above mentioned normal behaviour for english. That is =
[en] and [en-gb] produce the day-month-year order and that [us] and =
[en-us] month-day-year.</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: =
break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: =
break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">dr. Hans van der Meer<br class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div>=

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