From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/37862 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Henning Hraban Ramm Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: TeX ligatures in XeTeX/LuaTeX: ``who needs them''? Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 15:45:49 +0100 Message-ID: <0D0AD56C-7045-4EB0-8689-59C918710A5B@fiee.net> References: <6faad9f00712081404h160264b4h1802480d1140f32a@mail.gmail.com> <6faad9f00712081510v1b946b3ax387f4b7f9aa9e6e0@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1197282815 5844 80.91.229.12 (10 Dec 2007 10:33:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:33:35 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Dec 10 11:33:44 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J1fxG-0001mY-87 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:33:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECED91FDCC; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:31:52 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 00416-04; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:30:19 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 828E71FAAB; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:04:28 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5CE1FC93 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:53:48 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 29857-01 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:52:31 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from lvps87-230-27-118.dedicated.hosteurope.de (fiee.net [87.230.27.118]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD3E1FBCB for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:34:03 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: (qmail 20391 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2007 15:45:50 +0100 Original-Received: from 112-10.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch (HELO ?10.128.9.3?) (81.62.10.112) by fiee.net with SMTP; 9 Dec 2007 15:45:50 +0100 In-Reply-To: <6faad9f00712081510v1b946b3ax387f4b7f9aa9e6e0@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:37862 Archived-At: Am 2007-12-09 um 00:10 schrieb Mojca Miklavec: >> In some old documents. In newer documents I use \quote and = >> \quotation. >> Then there are documents that need to move back and forth between = >> latex >> and context but for them I can easily define appropriate macros in = >> latex. > > To be honest: I never had the slightest idea how to get proper > (Slovenian, "lower nine double quote") quotation marks in LaTeX (or > what's the suggested way to do it :). That's why I now use > \def\quotation#1{...} in LaTeX as well (in case I need to fix other > people's stuff). Since I found ConTeXt (did only 1 LaTeX project before), I=92m using = \quote/\quotation IMO we are allowed to force ConTeXt users to use that or proper = characters. >>> Some ligatures are handy indeed: >>> -- -> endash >>> --- -> emdash >> >>> ' -> right single quote (I'm, isn't etc.) >> >> Sure. Those three replacements/ligatures were not under a question. > They should stay, IMO. +1 from me, there seems to be no alternative if your keyboard mapping = doesn=92t allow to input such directly. (Even if I like to encourage people to write their own enhanced = keymaps if theirs doesn=92t contain what they need =96 my one gives me = all European characters except Cyrillic =92cause I don=92t need it...) Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I=92m an assurer) ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-cont= ext webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________