From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/51686 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: tomfloeren@mac.com Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Hyphenation list and umlauts Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:22:28 +0200 Message-ID: <0D441A65-EB15-4614-86F8-8049BB83BEC0@mac.com> References: <002e01c9f4cf$b6a20990$8614a8c0@boschung.local> <4A422B42.3030500@elvenkind.com> <002f01c9ffb5$09c86020$8614a8c0@boschung.local> <4A547DAE.1010806@gmx.net> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2073664010==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1247121852 17979 80.91.229.12 (9 Jul 2009 06:44:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 06:44:12 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Jul 09 08:44:05 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MOnMT-0002dX-FM for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Jul 2009 08:44:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D421FB4E; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 08:43:57 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 15449-04-2; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 08:42:55 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F671FB49; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 08:42:22 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3EF61FAD7 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 20:22:56 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09477-02-3 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 20:22:47 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter4-til.mf.surf.net (filter4-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.220]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C901FA4C for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 20:22:47 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from asmtpout011.mac.com (asmtpout011.mac.com [17.148.16.86]) by filter4-til.mf.surf.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n68IMgGf026419 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 20:22:43 +0200 Original-Received: from [10.0.1.2] ([81.13.163.6]) by asmtp011.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KMH0047271GBY40@asmtp011.mac.com> for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 11:22:42 -0700 (PDT) In-reply-to: <4A547DAE.1010806@gmx.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=17.148.16.86; country=US; region=CA; city=Cupertino; postalcode=95014; latitude=37.3042; longitude=-122.0946; metrocode=807; areacode=408; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.3042,-122.0946&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 257779348 - 9a4beed39dd6 - 20090708 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.220 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 08:42:14 +0200 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:51686 Archived-At: --===============2073664010== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_MVK746MFl6Cb+fSNATTbNQ)" --Boundary_(ID_MVK746MFl6Cb+fSNATTbNQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable On Jul 8, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Peter Rolf wrote: > Thomas Floeren schrieb: >> >> Taco Hoekwater scribbled on Wednesday, =20= >> June 24, 2009 3:34 PM: >> >> >>> Thomas Floeren wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I stumbled upon a problem with my hyphenation list: >>>> >>>> In MKIV, all the words in the list that contain umlauts are >>>> completely ignored. MKII is fine. >>>> >>> Luatex 0.40.5 is broken in this regard, sorry. >>> >>> (The problem is that the exception handling uses \lccodes >>> for the *byte* range 128-255, which is quite wrong). This is >>> serious enough that there will be a 0.40.6 later in the week. >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> Taco >>> >> >> >> >> Well, in my other mail I said that it worked perfectly now with =20 >> 0.40.6, but this isn=92t entirely true: >> >> It works perfectly on Mac, Linux and Win Vista. But for any obscure =20= >> reason I can not get it to work on Win XP (to which I=92m bound at =20= >> work, unfortunately). >> >> Linux and WinVista are running as virtual machines on Mac Intel =20 >> systems, WinXP is running nonvirtually on PC. >> >> In order to minimize installation differences I have even copied =20 >> the entire context folder from Vista to the XP machine (including =20 >> binaries, minimals, texmf-local), trashed the caches, remade the =20 >> formats ... but still no UTF hyphenation exceptions on the XP-PC. >> >> Do you - or anybody - have an idea of what the reason for this =20 >> could be? >> Some stupid small thing that I have overlooked? >> > Just tried your example code and I also get wrong hyphenation on XP. > > This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.40.6-2009070100 (Web2C 2009) =20 > luatex.web >=3D v13958 > MTXrun | current version: 2009.06.14 21:01 > > Sorry, also no clue what goes wrong... > >> >> Maybe I should pose my question differently: Is there anybody on WinXP who can typeset my minimal (below) as =20 intended? (I=92m aware that not many people on this list are using MS systems, I =20= personally also prefer working systems, but at work I=92m (still) =20 restricted to MS-XP. So this problem is of uttermost importance for me. I hope the ConTeXt support for MS systems will not be dropped too =20 soon, there are still people out there dependent on those OSs) Here=92s the minimal again: \de \hyphenation{ma-n=F6-v-rie-ren} \starttext \hyphenatedword{man=F6vrieren} \stoptext Thanks again for any help or hint Tom >> Any help is appreciated >> Thanks >> >> Thomas >> >> = __________________________________________________________________________= _________ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an =20 >> entry to the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / = http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net >> archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >> = __________________________________________________________________________= _________ >> > > = __________________________________________________________________________= _________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an =20 > entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / = http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > = __________________________________________________________________________= _________ --Boundary_(ID_MVK746MFl6Cb+fSNATTbNQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
On Jul 8, 2009, = at 1:06 PM, Peter Rolf wrote:

Thomas Floeren schrieb: =
Taco Hoekwater <mailto:taco@elvenkind.com> =
scribbled on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:34 PM:

  
Thomas Floeren =
wrote:
    
Hi,

I stumbled upon a problem with my hyphenation list:

In MKIV, all the words in the list that contain umlauts are
completely ignored. MKII is fine.=20
      
Luatex 0.40.5 is broken =
in this regard, sorry.

(The problem is that the exception handling uses \lccodes
for the *byte* range 128-255, which is quite wrong). This is
serious enough that there will be a 0.40.6 later in the week.

Best wishes,
Taco
    



Well, in my other mail I said that it worked perfectly now with 0.40.6, =
but this isn=92t entirely true:

It works perfectly on Mac, Linux and Win Vista. But for any obscure =
reason I can not get it to work on Win XP (to which I=92m bound at work, =
unfortunately).

Linux and WinVista are running as virtual machines on Mac Intel systems, =
WinXP is running nonvirtually on PC.=20

In order to minimize installation differences I have even copied the =
entire context folder from Vista to the XP machine (including binaries, =
minimals, texmf-local), trashed the caches, remade the formats ... but =
still no UTF hyphenation exceptions on the XP-PC.

Do you - or anybody - have an idea of what the reason for this could be?
Some stupid small thing that I have overlooked?
  
Just tried your example code and I also get wrong = hyphenation on XP.

This is LuaTeX, Version = beta-0.40.6-2009070100 (Web2C 2009) luatex.web >=3D v13958
MTXrun = | current version: 2009.06.14 21:01

Sorry, also no clue what = goes wrong...

Maybe I should pose =
my question differently:
Is there anybody on WinXP who can = typeset my minimal (below) as intended?

(I=92m = aware that not many people on this list are using MS systems, I = personally also prefer working systems, but at work I=92m (still) = restricted to MS-XP.
So this problem is of uttermost = importance for me. 
I hope the ConTeXt support for MS = systems will not be dropped too soon, there are still people out there = dependent on those OSs)

Here=92s the minimal = again:

\de
\hyphenation{ma-n=F6-v-rie-ren}=20
\starttext
\hyphenatedword{man=F6vrieren}
\stoptext 

Thanks again for any help = or hint
Tom

Any help is appreciated
Thanks

Thomas

=
__________________________________________________________________________=
_________
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry =
to the Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/=
mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : https://foundry.s=
upelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
=
__________________________________________________________________________=
_________
  

= __________________________________________________________________________= _________
If your question is of interest to others as well, please = add an entry to the Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/= mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive =  : https://foundry.s= upelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
________= __________________________________________________________________________= _

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