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From: "Thomas A. Schmitz" <thomas.schmitz@uni-bonn.de>
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>,
	Alan Braslau <braslau.list@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: xml, language, btx problems
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 12:19:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0b1ce3e0-5393-ef2b-2a7d-f576d704f0d7@uni-bonn.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180617165807.79f0037c@poo.hsd1.co.comcast.net>

Hi Alan,

thanks for joining the discussion! Just to answer your two queries about 
my setup:

On 06/18/2018 12:58 AM, Alan Braslau wrote:
> Thomas,
> 
> Why would the definitions need to be loaded before \starttext?
> The bibliographic data can be loaded independent of any rendering or
> use definitions.

That's what I deduced from my experiments. When I load the definitions 
in the xml setup of the root element, they are not loaded, but printed 
verbatim to the pdf file. My deduction may be wrong - this is a pretty 
complex setup, in which I produce slides, manuscript (in different 
formats), handout, and bibliography all from the same xml source. So it 
may be some interference/interaction of these complex parts that I don't 
quite understand. I'll continue experimenting...

Also, why don't you write your custom definitions to
> handle languages, rather than writing new definition sets based on
> language?
> 
There is one stumbling block that made me think I had to have two 
separate setups (in addition to the fact that it makes the source 
cleaner and easier to maintain): I copied publ-imp-apa.* and modified it 
to suit my needs. Now for apa, editors and authors are included in one 
set, e.g., in line 169-171:

categories.book = {
     sets = {
         author     = { "author", "editor", "publisher", "title" },
}

In my German bibliography file, I distinguish between authored volumes 
and edited volumes both for the presentation and for the sorting:

Author, Firstname: Title ...

as opposed to

Edited Volume, hrsg. von Firstname Editor ...

and I found that as long as I had this "set" line in my 
publ-imp-style.lua file, I would always get

Editor, Firstname: Edited Volume, hrsg. von Firstname Editor ...

When I deleted the line, I could get what I wanted. So my inference was 
that for my German bibliography, I needed a different lua and a 
different publ-imp-.tex file. But maybe I was wrong and you have an 
easier approach?

All best and thanks!

Thomas


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  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-18 10:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-17 17:52 Thomas A. Schmitz
2018-06-17 19:37 ` Pablo Rodriguez
2018-06-17 20:10   ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2018-06-17 20:36     ` Wolfgang Schuster
2018-06-18 16:36     ` Pablo Rodriguez
2018-06-17 22:58 ` Alan Braslau
2018-06-18 10:19   ` Thomas A. Schmitz [this message]
2018-06-18 10:53     ` Hans Hagen
2018-06-18 11:07       ` Thomas A. Schmitz

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