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From: Hans Hagen via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
To: Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Cc: Hans Hagen <j.hagen@freedom.nl>
Subject: [NTG-context] Re: images with alt text
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2024 17:09:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0d3c437f-8930-4a56-b124-11f606a8f24c@freedom.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <24512567-005b-48a2-baf6-516a2e2c3f3b@gmx.es>

On 9/23/2024 8:02 AM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote:
> On 9/22/24 21:58, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
>> On 9/22/2024 2:43 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote:
>>
>>> It would be great to have synonyms added the /E information by default.
>>> I think this may be a requirement for text-to-speech conversions.
>>
>> even more crap .. let's wait till abbreviations are completely forbiddeb
>> (and also units and such )
> 
>  From what I see, /E may be helpful (similar to /ActualText).

Imo it's useless:

(1) normally when a new abbreviation is intriduced one has the expanded 
meaning after it
(2) after that it is suposed to be known
(3) if one jumps into a document in the middle one cannot expect it to 
be repeated every time
(4) if that *is* expoected there is no need to use abbreviations at all
(5) so, why should a 'read out' document have all abbreviations with an 
expanded meaning and a typeset text not

> For me, the real problem with accessibility (and penalties for
> non-accessible documents) is that it will force all documents to be
> machine-readable (so we have to feed AI with all our public documents,
> whether we like it or not).

i assume that such a machine learning or pattern recognotion app can 
quite well figure out that it's an abbreviation

> I mean, no such as "\enabledirectives[backend.pdf.nounicode=❌]" allowed.

well, everything is allowed ... after all why do we typeset and 
visualize otherwise ... it depends on the audience

one can always generate multiple versions, one with two times the number 
of pages and all expanded

Hans



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  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-23 15:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-21 17:16 [NTG-context] " Steffen Wolfrum
2024-09-22 11:15 ` [NTG-context] " Hans Hagen via ntg-context
2024-09-22 12:43   ` Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context
2024-09-22 19:58     ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context
2024-09-23  6:02       ` Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context
2024-09-23 15:09         ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context [this message]
2025-02-04 14:03           ` Steffen Wolfrum
2025-02-04 15:40             ` Florent Michel
2025-02-05 11:27               ` luigi scarso
2025-02-05 12:11                 ` Hans Hagen
2025-02-05 14:44                   ` Steffen Wolfrum
2025-02-05 16:35                     ` Hans Hagen
2025-02-05 17:49                       ` Steffen Wolfrum
2025-02-05 18:13                         ` Keith McKay
2025-02-05 20:51                           ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2025-02-05 21:53                             ` Keith McKay
2025-02-05 18:18                       ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2025-02-05 19:44                         ` Steffen Wolfrum
2025-02-06 11:22               ` Steffen Wolfrum
2025-02-06 11:56                 ` Florent Michel
2025-02-06 12:06                   ` Steffen Wolfrum
2025-02-06 13:17                     ` Steffen Wolfrum
2025-02-06 13:30                       ` Florent Michel

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