From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/10125 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: scarso luigi Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: DocBookInConTeXt customization? Date: 13 Dec 2002 13:57:21 +0100 Sender: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Message-ID: <1039784241.25107.339.camel@luigis.logo.net> References: <1039699770.25107.28.camel@luigis.logo.net> <95D4D70A-0DD8-11D7-A0AA-0030657A7050@fastmail.fm> <20021212201146.GB1033@scaprea> Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1039784329 29267 80.91.224.249 (13 Dec 2002 12:58:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:58:49 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from ref.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.13] helo=ref.ntg.nl) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18MpOw-0007bs-00 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 13:58:46 +0100 Original-Received: from ref.ntg.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5707210AEF; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 13:59:02 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from luigis.logo.net (host158-124.pool217223.interbusiness.it [217.223.124.158]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B430210AE7 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 13:57:11 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: (from luigi@localhost) by luigis.logo.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBDCvMT31082; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 13:57:22 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: luigis.logo.net: luigi set sender to scarsoluigi@libero.it using -f Original-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl In-Reply-To: <20021212201146.GB1033@scaprea> X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.3 (1.0.3-4) Errors-To: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:10125 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:10125 > I agree with this point of view: formatting preferences are expressed > by customizing style sheets. Maybe an example can help: has width and height attributes that are, in my point of view, formatting preferences: a user should be use these and not manipulate the style sheet (for example by imposing a fit for every image in the style sheet). But, again for example, variations like bold etc are not into semantic of docbook: a xml document can use proc.instructions or role attr. (ex. ) to carry this informations to (ConTeXt) engine, but they still remains specific for that engine with a style sheet and there are no guarantees that they will be understand by a different engine. This actually is a limit of docbook in portability : if a user make a xml document with a bold specification in somepoint (with role or proc.instr.) he may expect that bold will be renderer by every engine, but it's not true. Perhaps the questions is how to fill the empties in docbook (infact, we have got xml element for sectioning, tables, images etc) by a simple way for a normal user or, put in another way, if a feature is in xml DocBook you should be use it, if no ask yourself if it's needed and, if yes use a xml construct (from a standard set) to signalling this to ConTexT engine; but in the last case you loose portability. or not ? luigi