Need more documentation on tables

Need more documentation on tables

[Giuseppe Bilotta]

Ok, even with the wiki and all the manuals around (which are
getting obsolete, too) there is definitely too little
documentation on the various tabulation formats.

The biggest problem is that each table type has its ability,
but there is nothing that can do everything.

Simplest example, I'm currently having a problem using a
start/stoptabulate (which I need because \RC & friends don't
work in start/stoptable) but I don't know how to span
multiple columns (which can be done in start/stoptable with
\use, which doesn't work in start/stoptabulate)

What am I supposed to do?

-- 
Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

Re: Need more documentation on tables

[Giuseppe Bilotta]

Saturday, September 10, 2005 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

> Ok, even with the wiki and all the manuals around (which are
> getting obsolete, too) there is definitely too little
> documentation on the various tabulation formats.

> The biggest problem is that each table type has its ability,
> but there is nothing that can do everything.

> Simplest example, I'm currently having a problem using a
> start/stoptabulate (which I need because \RC & friends don't
> work in start/stoptable) but I don't know how to span
> multiple columns (which can be done in start/stoptable with
> \use, which doesn't work in start/stoptabulate)

> What am I supposed to do?

Read the sources, of course. Once I found about \ReFormat in
the TaBlE mechanism, I was done. It's more verbose than the
tabulate way, but it works perfectly.

Should I write some documentation about TaBlE preambles and
commands (for the Wiki), or would it be against some rule
about its ($$$) documentation?

-- 
Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

Re: Need more documentation on tables

[Hans Hagen]

Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

>Should I write some documentation about TaBlE preambles and
>commands (for the Wiki), or would it be against some rule
>about its ($$$) documentation?
>  
>
go ahead, i see no problems 

Hans 

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Re: Need more documentation on tables

[Hans Hagen]

Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

>Ok, even with the wiki and all the manuals around (which are
>getting obsolete, too) there is definitely too little
>documentation on the various tabulation formats.
>
>The biggest problem is that each table type has its ability,
>but there is nothing that can do everything.
>
>Simplest example, I'm currently having a problem using a
>start/stoptabulate (which I need because \RC & friends don't
>work in start/stoptable) but I don't know how to span
>multiple columns (which can be done in start/stoptable with
>\use, which doesn't work in start/stoptabulate)
>
>What am I supposed to do?
>  
>
maybe bTABLE cum suis 

Hans 

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Re[2]: Need more documentation on tables

[Giuseppe Bilotta]

Monday, September 12, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

> Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

>>Ok, even with the wiki and all the manuals around (which are
>>getting obsolete, too) there is definitely too little
>>documentation on the various tabulation formats.
>>
>>The biggest problem is that each table type has its ability,
>>but there is nothing that can do everything.
>>
>>Simplest example, I'm currently having a problem using a
>>start/stoptabulate (which I need because \RC & friends don't
>>work in start/stoptable) but I don't know how to span
>>multiple columns (which can be done in start/stoptable with
>>\use, which doesn't work in start/stoptabulate)
>>
>>What am I supposed to do?
>>  
>>
> maybe bTABLE cum suis 

No, table is actually all right. I seem to have met a bug,
though. The key c doesn't seem to work in a \ReFormat

\placetable[here][approx-1-0.11269]{Results for curve 1, radius 0.11269}
{\tfxx
\starttable[|l|l|r|ra.o0|l|ra.o0|l|ra.o0|l|]
\HL
\NC\ReFormat[Bc]{Method}%
\NC\ReFormat[Bc]{Options}%
\NC\ReFormat[Bc]{Iterations}%
\NC\use2\ReFormat[Bc]{Error}%
\NC\use2\ReFormat[Bc]{Error\%}%
\NC\use2\ReFormat[Bc]{$L^2$}%
\SR
\HL
\NC Kinch\NC \NC 0\NC 0\NC 01891\NC 16\NC 7785\NC 0\NC 00761\%\NC\AR
\NC Legendre\NC direct, 2 samples\NC 8\NC 0\NC 01468\NC 13\NC 02819\NC 0\NC 0074\%\NC\AR
\NC Legendre\NC Kinch, 2 samples\NC 8\NC 0\NC 01468\NC 13\NC 02819\NC 0\NC 0074\%\NC\AR
\HL
\stoptable
\par
}

Am I supposed to be using a terminator different from \SR?

-- 
Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

Re[3]: Need more documentation on tables

[Giuseppe Bilotta]

Monday, September 12, 2005 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

> No, table is actually all right. I seem to have met a bug,
> though. The key c doesn't seem to work in a \ReFormat

> \placetable[here][approx-1-0.11269]{Results for curve 1, radius 0.11269}
> {\tfxx
> \starttable[|l|l|r|ra.o0|l|ra.o0|l|ra.o0|l|]
> \HL
> \NC\ReFormat[Bc]{Method}%
> \NC\ReFormat[Bc]{Options}%
> \NC\ReFormat[Bc]{Iterations}%
> \NC\use2\ReFormat[Bc]{Error}%
> \NC\use2\ReFormat[Bc]{Error\%}%
> \NC\use2\ReFormat[Bc]{$L^2$}%
> \SR
> \HL
> \NC Kinch\NC \NC 0\NC 0\NC 01891\NC 16\NC 7785\NC 0\NC 00761\%\NC\AR
> \NC Legendre\NC direct, 2 samples\NC 8\NC 0\NC 01468\NC
> 13\NC 02819\NC 0\NC 0074\%\NC\AR
> \NC Legendre\NC Kinch, 2 samples\NC 8\NC 0\NC 01468\NC
> 13\NC 02819\NC 0\NC 0074\%\NC\AR
> \HL
> \stoptable
> \par
> }

> Am I supposed to be using a terminator different from \SR?


Any news on this? I really need it for my thesis ...

-- 
Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

Re: Need more documentation on tables

[Patrick Gundlach]

[...]

> Should I write some documentation about TaBlE preambles and
> commands (for the Wiki), 

Giuseppe, please do so.


> or would it be against some rule about its ($$$) documentation?

I doubt that there is any law that prohibits writing a documentation
from scratch.

Patrick
-- 
ConTeXt wiki and more: http://contextgarden.net

Re: Need more documentation on tables

[Hans Hagen]

Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

>Any news on this? I really need it for my thesis ...
>  
>
hm. I don't want to be responsible for you failing to deliver your 
thesis in time ...

\def\!tfReFormat#1%
  {\the \!taLeftGlue
   \vbox{\forgetall\ialign{\span\the\!taDataColumnTemplate\cr#1\cr}}%
   \the \!taRightGlue
   \kern\zeropoint} % prevents \unskip

put this in cont-new.tex (or core-tab.tex); it replaces a thrd-tab macro.  

Hans 

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Re[2]: Need more documentation on tables

[Giuseppe Bilotta]

Thursday, September 15, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

> \def\!tfReFormat#1%
>   {\the \!taLeftGlue
>   
> \vbox{\forgetall\ialign{\span\the\!taDataColumnTemplate\cr#1\cr}}%
>    \the \!taRightGlue
>    \kern\zeropoint} % prevents \unskip

> put this in cont-new.tex (or core-tab.tex); it replaces a thrd-tab macro.

And it works, thank you very much.

Now to find a way to have 100 floats hanging around without
killing TeX ...

-- 
Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

Re: Re: Need more documentation on tables

[Giuseppe Bilotta]

Thursday, September 15, 2005 Patrick Gundlach wrote:


> [...]

>> Should I write some documentation about TaBlE preambles and
>> commands (for the Wiki), 

> Giuseppe, please do so.

Done

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Table

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Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta