EnglishRule and Lua / Simplefonts module

EnglishRule and Lua / Simplefonts module

[Charles Doherty]

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Dear Hans and Wolfgang,

I have started experimenting with the Lua engine through TeXShop. I use \EnglishRule in a Newsletter to separate major items. When I use it in the attached file it works as always when I use the ConteXt engine (TL2009) and in my minimals installation it works fine using MinimalsConTeXt engine and MinimalsXeConTeXt engine. When I switch to using the simplefonts module in MinimalsLua engine the \EnglishRule does not behave properly. Also the text switches to italic. I have attached a small file and if you comment out the lines and switch between the engines you can see what I mean. 

Thanks for any help,
Best wishes,
Charlie

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% Simplefont definitions 

%\usemodule[simplefonts][size=10pt]
%\setmainfont[DejaVu Serif]
%\setsansfont[DejaVu Sans]
%\setmonofont[DejaVu Sans Mono]

% XeTeX font definitions 

\definetypeface[DejaVu][rm][Xserif][DejaVu Serif]
\definetypeface[MyDejaVu][rm][Xserif][DejaVu Serif]
 \setupbodyfont[MyDejaVu, 10pt]

% style definitions 

\setupcolors[state=start]
        
\useMPlibrary [txt]
\setupMPvariables
[EnglishRule] [color=darkgray,
width=\textwidth]


\starttext 


\EnglishRule
\blank
\input knuth 
\EnglishRule
\input knuth
\EnglishRule
\blank
\input knuth 
\EnglishRule

\stoptext 

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Re: EnglishRule and Lua / Simplefonts module

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 24.11.2009 um 13:57 schrieb Charles Doherty:

> Dear Hans and Wolfgang,
> 
> I have started experimenting with the Lua engine through TeXShop. I use \EnglishRule in a Newsletter to separate major items. When I use it in the attached file it works as always when I use the ConteXt engine (TL2009) and in my minimals installation it works fine using MinimalsConTeXt engine and MinimalsXeConTeXt engine. When I switch to using the simplefonts module in MinimalsLua engine the \EnglishRule does not behave properly. Also the text switches to italic. I have attached a small file and if you comment out the lines and switch between the engines you can see what I mean. 

MkIV works fine for me, update your minimals to the last ConTeXt version and tell us if the problem remains.

Wolfgang

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Re: EnglishRule and Lua / Simplefonts module

[Charles Doherty]

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Dear Wolfgang,

I deleted my Minimals folder and did a complete re-install following instructions on ConTeXtGarden  curl -o first-setup.sh http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/first-setup.sh
etc.

I also downloaded simplefonts using the sh ./first-setup.sh --extras="t-simplefonts"

I still get the results as described below. 

Charlie

On 24 Nov 2009, at 13:38, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> 
> Am 24.11.2009 um 13:57 schrieb Charles Doherty:
> 
>> Dear Hans and Wolfgang,
>> 
>> I have started experimenting with the Lua engine through TeXShop. I use \EnglishRule in a Newsletter to separate major items. When I use it in the attached file it works as always when I use the ConteXt engine (TL2009) and in my minimals installation it works fine using MinimalsConTeXt engine and MinimalsXeConTeXt engine. When I switch to using the simplefonts module in MinimalsLua engine the \EnglishRule does not behave properly. Also the text switches to italic. I have attached a small file and if you comment out the lines and switch between the engines you can see what I mean. 
> 
> MkIV works fine for me, update your minimals to the last ConTeXt version and tell us if the problem remains.
> 
> Wolfgang
> 
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Re: EnglishRule and Lua / Simplefonts module

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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Am 24.11.2009 um 15:52 schrieb Charles Doherty:

> Dear Wolfgang,
> 
> I deleted my Minimals folder and did a complete re-install following instructions on ConTeXtGarden  curl -o first-setup.sh http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/first-setup.sh
> etc.
> 
> I also downloaded simplefonts using the sh ./first-setup.sh --extras="t-simplefonts"
> 
> I still get the results as described below. 

Can you send the log file.

Wolfgang


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Re: EnglishRule and Lua / Simplefonts module

[Charles Doherty]

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Here it is:
Thanks for taking the time.
Charlie

On 24 Nov 2009, at 15:36, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> 
> Am 24.11.2009 um 15:52 schrieb Charles Doherty:
> 
>> Dear Wolfgang,
>> 
>> I deleted my Minimals folder and did a complete re-install following instructions on ConTeXtGarden  curl -o first-setup.sh http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/first-setup.sh
>> etc.
>> 
>> I also downloaded simplefonts using the sh ./first-setup.sh --extras="t-simplefonts"
>> 
>> I still get the results as described below. 
> 
> Can you send the log file.
> 
> Wolfgang
> 
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Re: EnglishRule and Lua / Simplefonts module

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 24.11.2009 um 17:17 schrieb Charles Doherty:

> Here it is:
> Thanks for taking the time.

There is nothing I can see here which produce this results.

What do you get with the following lines on the command line:

mtxrun --script font --list dejavuserif
mtxrun --script font --list dejavuserifnormal

Can you also try to delete the luatex cache (everything below /Users/charlesdoherty/context/tex/texmf-cache/) and regenerate (luatools --generate) it.

Wolfgang

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Re: EnglishRule and Lua / Simplefonts module

[Charles Doherty]

Dear Wolfgang,

I deleted the luatex cashe. I got the same output. Then I ran the scripts. This is the result:

dejavuserif   dejavuserif   /Library/Fonts/DejaVuSerif.ttf
dejavuserifnormal   dejavuserifitalic   /Library/Fonts/DejaVuSerif-Italic.ttf

Charlie
On 24 Nov 2009, at 17:07, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> There is nothing I can see here which produce this results.
> 
> What do you get with the following lines on the command line:
> 
> mtxrun --script font --list dejavuserif
> mtxrun --script font --list dejavuserifnormal
> 
> Can you also try to delete the luatex cache (everything below /Users/charlesdoherty/context/tex/texmf-cache/) and regenerate (luatools --generate) it.
> 
> Wolfgang

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Re: EnglishRule and Lua / Simplefonts module

[Otared Kavian]

Hi Charles and Wolfgang,

I have noticed the same problem, as the one Charles is describing, with the « English rule » or the « swelled rule » and mkiv, and I think that this has nothing to do with fonts. Maybe, it is rather with the way \localhsize is defined in recent versions of mkiv: the « rule » appears in a rather starnge way on different pages.

My minimal example test file:

%%%%%%%%%%%

%% defining swelled rule, or English rule...
\setupMPvariables[SwelledRule][height=2pt,breadth=.667\localhsize]
\startuniqueMPgraphic{SwelledRule}{height,breadth} 
x1 = 0; x2 = x6 = .333x4; x3 = x5 = .667x4; x4 = \MPvar{breadth}; 
y1 = y4 = \MPvar{height}/2; y2 = y3 = \MPvar{height}; y5 = y6 = 0; 
fill z1--z2--z3--z4--z5--z6--cycle; 
\stopuniqueMPgraphic 

\def\SwelledRule{\blank%
\setlocalhsize\midaligned{\reuseMPgraphic{SwelledRule}}\blank} 
%% end swelled rule

\starttext

\dorecurse{20}{\input knuth \par \blank
\SwelledRule
\input knuth \page}
\stoptext

%%%%%%%%%%%


Best regards: OK


On 24 nov. 2009, at 13:57, Charles Doherty wrote:

> Dear Hans and Wolfgang,
> 
> I have started experimenting with the Lua engine through TeXShop. I use \EnglishRule in a Newsletter to separate major items. When I use it in the attached file it works as always when I use the ConteXt engine (TL2009) and in my minimals installation it works fine using MinimalsConTeXt engine and MinimalsXeConTeXt engine. When I switch to using the simplefonts module in MinimalsLua engine the \EnglishRule does not behave properly. Also the text switches to italic. I have attached a small file and if you comment out the lines and switch between the engines you can see what I mean. 
> 
> Thanks for any help,
> Best wishes,
> Charlie
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Re: EnglishRule and Lua / Simplefonts module

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 24.11.2009 um 19:06 schrieb Otared Kavian:

> Hi Charles and Wolfgang,
> 
> I have noticed the same problem, as the one Charles is describing, with the « English rule » or the « swelled rule » and mkiv, and I think that this has nothing to do with fonts. Maybe, it is rather with the way \localhsize is defined in recent versions of mkiv: the « rule » appears in a rather starnge way on different pages.
> 
> My minimal example test file:

And what should I see here, I get the same rule on each page.

Wolfgang

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Re: EnglishRule and Lua / Simplefonts module

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 24.11.2009 um 19:03 schrieb Charles Doherty:

> Dear Wolfgang,
> 
> I deleted the luatex cashe. I got the same output. Then I ran the scripts. This is the result:
> 
> dejavuserif   dejavuserif   /Library/Fonts/DejaVuSerif.ttf
> dejavuserifnormal   dejavuserifitalic   /Library/Fonts/DejaVuSerif-Italic.ttf

This explains why you get italic text, you can try to copy the fonts in your TeX directory
(dont't forget 'luatools --generate' and 'mtxrun --script font --reload' to let ConTeXt know
there are new fonts) and look if this works or you write

  \setmainfont[DejaVu Serif][regularfont={*}]

Wolfgang

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Re: EnglishRule and Lua / Simplefonts module

[Otared Kavian]

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On 24 nov. 2009, at 19:16, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

>> […]
> 
> And what should I see here, I get the same rule on each page.
> 
> Wolfgang

Sorry, Wolfgang I didn't attach the PDF file in order to pass through the mailing list.
I get English rules of various sizes placed almost at random somewhere on the page:


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I am running the latest release on Mac OS X 10.6.2: 
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.45.0-2009111904
ConTeXt  ver: 2009.11.24 10:13 MKIV  fmt: 2009.11.24  int: english/english

Best regards: OK

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