* whitespace in framedtext
@ 2007-07-02 15:43 Hans van der Meer
2007-07-03 6:32 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Hans van der Meer @ 2007-07-02 15:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: NTG ConTeXt
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I would like to shrink the whitespace at the top and the bottom of a
framedtext.
Like thus:
not this but this
------------------------------ ------------------------------
| | | |
| | | abcd |
| abcd | | abcd |
| abcd | | |
| | ------------------------------
| |
------------------------------
I have tried a lot of things with [before, after, top, bottom].
Although [depthcorrection=off] shaves somewhat off the whitespace, it
is not much nor am I sure if this is on the right track; and it is
not parametrized.
Someone knows the trick?
Hans van der Meer
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2007-07-02 15:43 whitespace in framedtext Hans van der Meer
@ 2007-07-03 6:32 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2007-07-03 8:20 ` Patrick Gundlach
2007-07-03 17:00 ` Hans van der Meer
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2007-07-03 6:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2007/7/2, Hans van der Meer <hansm@science.uva.nl>:
> I would like to shrink the whitespace at the top and the bottom of a
> framedtext.
> Like thus:
>
> not this but this
> ------------------------------ ------------------------------
> | | | |
> | | | abcd |
> | abcd | | abcd |
> | abcd | | |
> | | ------------------------------
> | |
> ------------------------------
>
> I have tried a lot of things with [before, after, top, bottom].
> Although [depthcorrection=off] shaves somewhat off the whitespace, it is not
> much nor am I sure if this is on the right track; and it is not
> parametrized.
>
> Someone knows the trick?
>
>
> Hans van der Meer
Hi Hans,
ConTeXt did not support different offset values for \framed and \startframedtext
but you can use my module to use enable them.
Look in the two example files how to use it.
Wolfgang
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* Re: whitespace in framedtext
2007-07-02 15:43 whitespace in framedtext Hans van der Meer
2007-07-03 6:32 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2007-07-03 8:20 ` Patrick Gundlach
2007-07-03 14:55 ` John R. Culleton
2007-07-03 17:00 ` Hans van der Meer
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From: Patrick Gundlach @ 2007-07-03 8:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
Hello Hans,
> I would like to shrink the whitespace at the top and the bottom of a
> framedtext.
> Like thus:
>
> not this but this
> ------------------------------ ------------------------------
> | | | |
> | | | abcd |
> | abcd | | abcd |
> | abcd | | |
> | | ------------------------------
> | |
> ------------------------------
>
> I have tried a lot of things with [before, after, top, bottom].
> Although [depthcorrection=off] shaves somewhat off the whitespace, it
> is not much nor am I sure if this is on the right track; and it is
> not parametrized.
>
> Someone knows the trick?
perhaps with an overlay?
--------------------------------------------------
\def\TightFrame
{\startoverlay
{\framed[width=\overlaywidth,height=\dimexpr(\overlayheight - 5ex)]{}}{}\stopoverlay}
\defineoverlay[TightFrame][\TightFrame]
\starttext
\startframedtext [background=TightFrame,frame=off]
Hallo Welt
\input tufte
\input knuth
\stopframedtext
\stoptext
--------------------------------------------------
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2007-07-03 8:20 ` Patrick Gundlach
@ 2007-07-03 14:55 ` John R. Culleton
2007-07-04 7:36 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: John R. Culleton @ 2007-07-03 14:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context; +Cc: Patrick Gundlach
On Tuesday 03 July 2007 04:20, Patrick Gundlach wrote:
> Hello Hans,
>
> > I would like to shrink the whitespace at the top and the bottom
> > of a framedtext.
> > Like thus:
> >
> > not this but this
> > ------------------------------
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > | | | abcd
> > | | | |
> > |
> > | abcd | | abcd
> > | | abcd | |
> > | |
> > |
> > | |
> > | | ------------------------------
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > I have tried a lot of things with [before, after, top, bottom].
> > Although [depthcorrection=off] shaves somewhat off the
> > whitespace, it is not much nor am I sure if this is on the right
> > track; and it is not parametrized.
> >
> > Someone knows the trick?
>
> perhaps with an overlay?
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> \def\TightFrame
> {\startoverlay
> {\framed[width=\overlaywidth,height=\dimexpr(\overlayheight -
> 5ex)]{}}{}\stopoverlay} \defineoverlay[TightFrame][\TightFrame]
>
>
> \starttext
>
> \startframedtext [background=TightFrame,frame=off]
> Hallo Welt
> \input tufte
>
> \input knuth
> \stopframedtext
> \stoptext
First I woud try just a negative \vskip thus:
\vskip -10pt
I know we are not supposed to use \vskips in Context except when
enclosed by
\startstandardmakeup
\stopstandardmakeup
But I use them and thus far there have been no terrible bad effects.
If you use \vskip and the sky falls in then there are the more complex
but safer methods such as the one outlined by Patrick G.
--
John Culleton
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2007-07-03 14:55 ` John R. Culleton
@ 2007-07-04 7:36 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2007-07-04 7:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2007/7/3, John R. Culleton <john@wexfordpress.com>:
> On Tuesday 03 July 2007 04:20, Patrick Gundlach wrote:
> > Hello Hans,
> >
> > > I would like to shrink the whitespace at the top and the bottom
> > > of a framedtext.
> > > Like thus:
> > >
> > > not this but this
> > > ------------------------------
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > | | | abcd
> > > | | | |
> > > |
> > > | abcd | | abcd
> > > | | abcd | |
> > > | |
> > > |
> > > | |
> > > | | ------------------------------
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > I have tried a lot of things with [before, after, top, bottom].
> > > Although [depthcorrection=off] shaves somewhat off the
> > > whitespace, it is not much nor am I sure if this is on the right
> > > track; and it is not parametrized.
> > >
> > > Someone knows the trick?
> >
> > perhaps with an overlay?
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > \def\TightFrame
> > {\startoverlay
> > {\framed[width=\overlaywidth,height=\dimexpr(\overlayheight -
> > 5ex)]{}}{}\stopoverlay} \defineoverlay[TightFrame][\TightFrame]
> >
> >
> > \starttext
> >
> > \startframedtext [background=TightFrame,frame=off]
> > Hallo Welt
> > \input tufte
> >
> > \input knuth
> > \stopframedtext
> > \stoptext
>
> First I woud try just a negative \vskip thus:
> \vskip -10pt
>
> I know we are not supposed to use \vskips in Context except when
> enclosed by
> \startstandardmakeup
> \stopstandardmakeup
> But I use them and thus far there have been no terrible bad effects.
>
> If you use \vskip and the sky falls in then there are the more complex
> but safer methods such as the one outlined by Patrick G.
> --
> John Culleton
why should we avoid primtives in ConTeXt, I see no problem to use them
as long as you know what you do.
\starttext
\startframedtext[offset=2cm,top=\vskip-1cm\relax,bottom=\vskip-1cm\relax]
\input knuth
\stopframedtext
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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* Re: whitespace in framedtext
2007-07-02 15:43 whitespace in framedtext Hans van der Meer
2007-07-03 6:32 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2007-07-03 8:20 ` Patrick Gundlach
@ 2007-07-03 17:00 ` Hans van der Meer
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From: Hans van der Meer @ 2007-07-03 17:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Thanks to all people who were so kind to react to this message.
It turned out to be a problem to be characterized by "Oh, silly me",
since I seem to have completely forgotten about the default offset
for framedtexts not being zero.
Therefore: the most simple solution (and I really think I should have
thought of it much earlier) was to use \startframedtext[offset=0pt].
with humbly regards
Hans van der Meer
On Jul 2, 2007, at 17:43, Hans van der Meer wrote:
> I would like to shrink the whitespace at the top and the bottom of
> a framedtext.
> Like thus:
>
> not this but this
> ------------------------------ ------------------------------
> | | | |
> | | | abcd |
> | abcd | | abcd |
> | abcd | | |
> | | ------------------------------
> | |
> ------------------------------
>
> I have tried a lot of things with [before, after, top, bottom].
> Although [depthcorrection=off] shaves somewhat off the whitespace,
> it is not much nor am I sure if this is on the right track; and it
> is not parametrized.
>
> Someone knows the trick?
>
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