backward compatibility broken !

backward compatibility broken !

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi,

I need to re-typeset an *old* book (from January 2004).

Unfortunately it doesn't work anymore with ConTeXt  ver: 2007.08.09  
13:04 MKII:

Runaway argument?
liche Laufbahn
! Paragraph ended before \next was complete.
<to be read again>
                    \par
l.12

?


The phrase causing the trouble is:

erste beruf"|liche Laufbahn


Is "| not working anymore?

Hopefully there is a successor that works the same way – and please  
(!) doesn't change the line-/page-breaks???


Steffen




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Re: backward compatibility broken !

[Taco Hoekwater]

Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I need to re-typeset an *old* book (from January 2004).
> 
> Unfortunately it doesn't work anymore with ConTeXt  ver: 2007.08.09  
> 13:04 MKII:

Fetch

   http://foundry.supelec.fr/frs/download.php/87/cont-tmf-20041217.zip

This is exactly what the museum is for.

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: backward compatibility broken !

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi Taco,

Am 10.09.2007 um 11:26 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:

> Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I need to re-typeset an *old* book (from January 2004).
>>
>> Unfortunately it doesn't work anymore with ConTeXt  ver: 2007.08.09
>> 13:04 MKII:
>
> Fetch
>
>    http://foundry.supelec.fr/frs/download.php/87/cont-tmf-20041217.zip
>
> This is exactly what the museum is for.


First:
Great – the old books are saved!
(Jesus Christ ... )


Second:
The "| was extremely important for contexting german texts (because  
of our huge amount of false ligatures).
Why is it not supported anymore (or at least replaced)??

Steffen
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Re: backward compatibility broken !

[Wolfgang Schuster]

2007/9/10, Steffen Wolfrum <context@st.estfiles.de>:
> Hi Taco,
>
> Am 10.09.2007 um 11:26 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:
>
> > Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I need to re-typeset an *old* book (from January 2004).
> >>
> >> Unfortunately it doesn't work anymore with ConTeXt  ver: 2007.08.09
> >> 13:04 MKII:
> >
> > Fetch
> >
> >    http://foundry.supelec.fr/frs/download.php/87/cont-tmf-20041217.zip
> >
> > This is exactly what the museum is for.
>
>
> First:
> Great – the old books are saved!
> (Jesus Christ ... )
>
>
> Second:
> The "| was extremely important for contexting german texts (because
> of our huge amount of false ligatures).
> Why is it not supported anymore (or at least replaced)??
>
> Steffen

Hi Steffen,

this did also work in a current ConTeXt but " is no longer a active
character and you have to enable this feature by yourself.

\useencoding[fde]
\mainlanguage[de]
\starttext
erste beruf"|liche Laufbahn
\stoptext

You should write now in your documents "erste beruf|*|liche Laufbahn".

Wolfgang
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close-up (was: backward compatibility ... )

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 10.09.2007 um 13:38 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:

> You should write now in your documents "erste beruf|*|liche Laufbahn".


Please take a close-up at the minimal below.
There are three components: hyphenation, ligatures and space in  
ligatures.

Up to now I couldn't find the *right* solution, where all three are  
correct.

Maybe some wizards know?

Steffen



\usetypescript[postscript][\defaultencoding]
\setupencoding[default=texnansi]
\mainlanguage[deo]
\enableregime[mac]
\setupbodyfont[postscript,36pt]


\starttext
\showframe

%Auflagen {\txx the fl-ligature is wrong here}

%Auf\-lagen {\txx the right fl for false ligatures!}

%Auf\/lagen {\txx this is too much space in fl}

%Auf|*|lagen {\txx  this is too much space in fl}


1234567890 Auflagen Auflagen {\txx right hyphenation, but wrong  
ligature\break - -}

1234567890 Auf\-lagen Auf\-lagen

1234567890 Auf\/lagen Auf\/lagen {\txx these -- and also \verbatim 
{Auf|\-|lagen} -- kill the other hyphenation Aufla-gen. Esp ugly for  
long words ... \break - -}

1234567890 Auf|*|lagen Auf|*|lagen {\txx right hyphenation, but too  
much space in fl\break - -}


  % for the right space between fl see also ff:


  Auf\-fangen {\txx perfect!}

  Auf\/fangen {\txx too much space}

  Auf|*|fangen {\txx too much space}


\stoptext

\stoptext

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Re: close-up (was: backward compatibility ... )

[Wolfgang Schuster]

2007/9/10, Steffen Wolfrum <context@st.estfiles.de>:
>
> Am 10.09.2007 um 13:38 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>
> > You should write now in your documents "erste beruf|*|liche Laufbahn".
>
>
> Please take a close-up at the minimal below.
> There are three components: hyphenation, ligatures and space in
> ligatures.
>
> Up to now I couldn't find the *right* solution, where all three are
> correct.
>
> Maybe some wizards know?
>
> Steffen
>
>
>
> \usetypescript[postscript][\defaultencoding]
> \setupencoding[default=texnansi]
> \mainlanguage[deo]
> \enableregime[mac]
> \setupbodyfont[postscript,36pt]
>
>
> \starttext
> \showframe
>
> %Auflagen {\txx the fl-ligature is wrong here}
>
> %Auf\-lagen {\txx the right fl for false ligatures!}
>
> %Auf\/lagen {\txx this is too much space in fl}
>
> %Auf|*|lagen {\txx  this is too much space in fl}
>
>
> 1234567890 Auflagen Auflagen {\txx right hyphenation, but wrong
> ligature\break - -}
>
> 1234567890 Auf\-lagen Auf\-lagen
>
> 1234567890 Auf\/lagen Auf\/lagen {\txx these -- and also \verbatim
> {Auf|\-|lagen} -- kill the other hyphenation Aufla-gen. Esp ugly for
> long words ... \break - -}
>
> 1234567890 Auf|*|lagen Auf|*|lagen {\txx right hyphenation, but too
> much space in fl\break - -}
>
>
>   % for the right space between fl see also ff:
>
>
>   Auf\-fangen {\txx perfect!}
>
>   Auf\/fangen {\txx too much space}
>
>   Auf|*|fangen {\txx too much space}
>
>
> \stoptext
>
> \stoptext

Hi Steffen,

you can change the space between the characters the |*| inserts.

% original definition
%\definetextmodediscretionary *
%  {\prewordbreak\discretionary{-}{}{\kern.05em}\prewordbreak}

\definetextmodediscretionary *
  {\prewordbreak\discretionary{-}{}{}\prewordbreak}

Now Auf|*|lagen give for me the same output as Auf\-lagen.

Wolfgang
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Re: close-up (was: backward compatibility ... )

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 11.09.2007 um 08:38 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:

> 2007/9/10, Steffen Wolfrum <context@st.estfiles.de>:

>> There are three components: hyphenation, ligatures and space in
>> ligatures.
>>
>> Up to now I couldn't find the *right* solution, where all three are
>> correct.
>>
>> Maybe some wizards know?
>> ...

> \definetextmodediscretionary *
>   {\prewordbreak\discretionary{-}{}{}\prewordbreak}
>
> Now Auf|*|lagen give for me the same output as Auf\-lagen.


HURRAY !!! 
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