From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/37861 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Wolfgang Schuster" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: TeX ligatures in XeTeX/LuaTeX: ``who needs them''? Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:46:37 +0100 Message-ID: <115224fb0712100046w47d7f1c9s686576294a283332@mail.gmail.com> References: <6faad9f00712081404h160264b4h1802480d1140f32a@mail.gmail.com> <8C808585-FD3F-4E36-BB4B-5B46CED0075A@boede.nl> <6faad9f00712091048y578ddf47g7cd36cc2f6bdc8a8@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1197279539 27797 80.91.229.12 (10 Dec 2007 09:38:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:38:59 +0000 (UTC) To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Dec 10 10:39:11 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J1f6S-0002OP-4q for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:39:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED921FB8C; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:03:15 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 11403-10; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:02:54 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F20C51FB1D; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:56:47 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF7981FA63 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:49:38 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05344-08-8 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:48:44 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A9601FB89 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:46:51 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id q2so1421230uge for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 00:46:37 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.66.243.13 with SMTP id q13mr6157638ugh.1197276397135; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 00:46:37 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.67.122.17 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 00:46:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <6faad9f00712091048y578ddf47g7cd36cc2f6bdc8a8@mail.gmail.com> Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:37861 Archived-At: 2007/12/9, Mojca Miklavec : > On Dec 9, 2007 5:07 PM, Willi Egger wrote: > > > or even more weird ones: > > > !` -> inverted exclam > > > ?` -> inverted question > > > > For Spanish this is definitevely necessary. Again if coded in UTF > > there is no problem. > > Do Spansh users still key them in like that (apart from old TeX-ies > who have never heard abot anything beyond \v, \", \')? I mean: would > anyone miss those two ligatures? (I assume that people need to use > inverted quotation marks in Word as well ...) > > Ono problem is that that's a "well known" TeX behaviour though > (documented in beginner's manual as well). > > > > Some ligatures are handy indeed: > > > -- -> endash > > > --- -> emdash > > > ' -> right single quote (I'm, isn't etc.) > > > > Sure this is important, I suggest to add the horizontal ellipsis > > \dots? But what if one decides to use, say, 10 dots in a row? That \periods[10] > might lead to weird effects (non-evenly spaced dots). -- and --- have > been well established, so one would be careful enough before writing > "----------". And there's \dots, so that one could have been mapped to > ellipsis if needed. 10 periods in the file should give 3 ellipsis and 1 single dot. > Thanks, > Mojca Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________