From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/37880 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Wolfgang Schuster" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light? Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:56:41 +0100 Message-ID: <115224fb0712100956n8fddb55r62f56031e189724a@mail.gmail.com> References: <769ba7780712100758o7f46e5f2m8b8ed42e5ced285@mail.gmail.com> <115224fb0712100805w7f12e69fqbe882f92a9587bb9@mail.gmail.com> <769ba7780712100823x77116f0fif59fc2b526ec8bc0@mail.gmail.com> <20071210171914.GE26652@phare.normalesup.org> <475D7B8C.1050501@elvenkind.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1197309699 2590 80.91.229.12 (10 Dec 2007 18:01:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:01:39 +0000 (UTC) To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Dec 10 19:01:48 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J1mwW-0001Pp-Rn for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:01:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D3791FD60; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:01:02 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 00340-01; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:00:53 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD5F1FC6A; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:00:52 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E560F1FC6A for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:00:50 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 00319-01 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:00:44 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A7231FCFF for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:56:42 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id q2so1560199uge for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:56:42 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.67.119.15 with SMTP id w15mr1358896ugm.1197309401684; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:56:41 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.67.122.17 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:56:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <475D7B8C.1050501@elvenkind.com> Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:37880 Archived-At: 2007/12/10, Taco Hoekwater : > Arthur Reutenauer wrote: > >> I don't know, but in this case, I don't want to embed fonts, I don't know > >> how LuaTeX can do that > > > > LuaTeX knows how to not embed fonts if you ask it not to, but I'm not > > sure how this is handled on the ConTeXt level. > > > >> but it runs really slow on my ancient PC, especially > >> on the first time when it's generating font cache. > > > > That's true, it needs a lot of memory (so most of the time is spent > > swapping, I guess). As I've found out, Mark IV is slightly faster on a > > 450 MHz Sparc processor with 1GB memory than on a 2GHz Intel Dual Core > > with 512MB memory ;-) > > This is especially true if you use large fonts like the AdobeMingStd. > It should slowly be getting better over time, Hans and I hope. We try > to optimize for memory use as well as directly for speed, because > less memory is often faster also. However, premature size optimizations > tend to cause problems later on, and therefore progress is slow. Slow is no word for the speed with CJK, I have a document with Adobe Kozuka Minchi and Gothic and run takes up to 3 to 4 minutes. The same document needs with XeTeX about half a minute and using the same fonts in plain TeX took only a few seconds. This is really something LuaTeX need to be faster, but it is always faster than using the cwTeX in truetype format with pdfTeX ;-) Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________