From: "Wolfgang Schuster" <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com>
To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: margins
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:12:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <115224fb0803260012y70c27163wa413e2b5343386e1@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b11f605c0803251455w2fcbdbfdh7cea69eea7aaeeef@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:55 PM, Peter I. Hansen <peterih@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm <hraban@fiee.net> wrote:
> > Am 2008-03-25 um 01:51 schrieb Joel C. Salomon:
> >
> > > In other words, you want large inner margins and small outer margins.
> > >> However, the standard behaviour seems to be the opposite.
> > > For very good reason. When a two-page spread is laid flat, it usually
> > > looks best if the outer margins are both approximately equal in width
> > > to the combined inner margins. The default layout takes that into
> > > account.
> > >
> > > While the binding of a book does "eat" some of the inner margin, it's
> > > probably less than you think (IIRC, from ¼ʺ to ½ʺ, depending on
> > > the
> > > binding method), and often the print shop can correct for that. (If
> > > you need to be exact, measure against a book bound where your book
> > > will be and in the same method.)
> >
> > It depends on the binding method.
> >
> > The traditional margin sizes are only good for thread-stitching.
> > If your book's bound threadless (perfect binding, Wire-O etc.) your
> > inner margins need to be bigger (not always bigger as the outer, but
> > at least bigger than the traditional measures).
> >
> > It's not only that the bookbinder mills away a few millimeters of the
> > page - you can't open a adhesive bound book as much as a thread-
> > stitched, so you need a wider gutter to be able to read the book
> > without destroying the binding. (Or in case of spiral binding the
> > holes for the wire need enough space.)
> >
> > And if you need to send your PDF print-ready to your printshop (maybe
> > books-on-demand maker), there's nobody else who will correct for that.
> >
> > Insofar the OP's question is well justified.
> > Even if he could have found the answer easily himself:
> >
> > Of course you can define your page layout at will,
> > see http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Layout
>
> Well, the information here does not solv my problem completely.
> The thing is, that while I do want the inner margins to be larger than
> the outer, my description also implies that the odd numbered pages are
> right pages, which is sometimes a requirement for printed books.
> I have tried to define the margins following the Layout section of the
> manual, but I can't figure out how to change that the odd pages are
> assumed to be left pages.
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\setuplayout
[backspace=4cm,
cutspace=2cm,
width=fit]
%\setuplayout
% [backspace=4cm,
% width=15cm]
\starttext
\dorecurse{100}{\input knuth\par}
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-03-26 7:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-03-24 22:27 margins Peter I. Hansen
2008-03-25 0:51 ` margins Joel C. Salomon
2008-03-25 20:06 ` margins Henning Hraban Ramm
2008-03-25 21:55 ` margins Peter I. Hansen
2008-03-26 7:12 ` Wolfgang Schuster [this message]
2008-03-26 8:57 ` margins Peter I. Hansen
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