From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/39910 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Wolfgang Schuster" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: analyzing type-otf.tex Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 09:25:51 +0200 Message-ID: <115224fb0804080025w50c37554u9710868f8e941891@mail.gmail.com> References: <7F6B54BD-335B-48CA-B5EB-0A5012BB71B9@fiee.net> <6faad9f00804070358y732172bv39fb3e1c5bd738fc@mail.gmail.com> <3967C159-07A5-4DC4-896A-7C6DC9857017@fiee.net> <6faad9f00804071550w63f93e24w7f847695fb0eaabf@mail.gmail.com> <115224fb0804072344h5fb2ecafkf0ab693e263c9cbd@mail.gmail.com> <954f61110804080011s7291fe3dn73cec0dc97088c7f@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1207639640 19681 80.91.229.12 (8 Apr 2008 07:27:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 07:27:20 +0000 (UTC) To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Apr 08 09:27:51 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jj8FC-0001zr-6o for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2008 09:27:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E311FBD5; Tue, 8 Apr 2008 09:27:10 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 10777-01-3; Tue, 8 Apr 2008 09:26:28 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76BF1FB1D; Tue, 8 Apr 2008 09:26:27 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1AE81FB1D for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2008 09:26:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 10377-01-4 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2008 09:25:52 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.233]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FBC71FADF for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2008 09:25:52 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id c53so1541683wra.20 for ; Tue, 08 Apr 2008 00:25:51 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.150.218.10 with SMTP id q10mr3266755ybg.50.1207639551194; Tue, 08 Apr 2008 00:25:51 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.150.49.21 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Apr 2008 00:25:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <954f61110804080011s7291fe3dn73cec0dc97088c7f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:39910 Archived-At: On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > 2008/4/8, Wolfgang Schuster : > > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 12:50 AM, Mojca Miklavec > > wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > > > > Oh? I thought uc encoding would magically enhance my type1 fonts with > > > > full unicode range... > > > > ;-) > > > I almost forgot ... to be honest, I wanted to say: "LuaTeX does > > > exactly that", but then I have remembered that you have explicitely > > > asked not to mention any LuaTeX benefits to you any more (at least > > > until next TeX Live comes out) ... :) > > This is indeed possible with LuaTeX because you could create a virtual font > > and use any other character from another font with more characters but there > > is no font with the complete unicode range, unicode support more signs > > as you could use in one OpenType/TrueType font. > > Please, don't take me dumber than I am. There's a smiley after my naive remark. I never meant this :-( > It's great if luaTeX can access all available glyphs of a font (and > that's really another reason to switch), and I guess it will also > continue to combine accents and base characters for undefined glyphs, > but of course it can't "invent" new glyphs. But you could use them from another font as fallback, not the best idea but possible. And no, you can't access all glyphs from a font, it is easy to to print the vertical forms from CJK punctuation with XeTeX but the LuaTeX output is nonsense. > Most good Type1 fonts contain the range of Latin-1 and Mac-Roman, and > if I'll be able to access that, it's great. > > I already started to combine several freeware fonts into OpenType > (i.e. if there are e.g. Western, CE and alternate/expert fonts). But I > guess that's only one of my "few" projects that stall until they're > needed... > > Regarding luaTeX: Even if I can just include rsync into my daily > update script to stay up-to-date on binaries (thanks for pointing that > out!), I get a bad feeling if I see lots of threads on this list that > show that luaTeX seems to have still some basic problems... On the > other hand when I started using ConTeXt I did it for some features > (grid setting!) even though it was a very much moving target. Wolfgang PS: I used your manuals to start with ConTeXt and never thought of you as a dumb user and this wasn't meant to critize you, the only thing I wanted to say it is still possible not not only a joke. ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________