From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/39969 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Wolfgang Schuster" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: ConTEXt - produced book about ConTeXt Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 10:39:22 +0200 Message-ID: <115224fb0804090139w648618d6le2e0a8f7c2326966@mail.gmail.com> References: <47FB7022.4010607@unibas.ch> <8F97C56D-D9CB-4D0A-8E60-575584FD85DF@fiee.net> <874pacysx2.fsf@nitai.hr> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1207730400 32647 80.91.229.12 (9 Apr 2008 08:40:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 08:40:00 +0000 (UTC) To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Apr 09 10:40:32 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JjVr3-00042l-ND for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2008 10:40:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B71801FCF3; Wed, 9 Apr 2008 10:39:48 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 27461-02; Wed, 9 Apr 2008 10:39:30 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BAD91FC1B; Wed, 9 Apr 2008 10:39:30 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A7661FC1B for ; Wed, 9 Apr 2008 10:39:28 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 27826-01 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 2008 10:39:22 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C6A81FC09 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 2008 10:39:22 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id q2so960348uge.50 for ; Wed, 09 Apr 2008 01:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.67.87.6 with SMTP id p6mr4275212ugl.53.1207730362371; Wed, 09 Apr 2008 01:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.66.236.18 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Apr 2008 01:39:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:39969 Archived-At: On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Maurice Diamantini wrote: > > Le 8 avr. 08 =E0 22:48, Gour a =E9crit : > > > Henning> How about a list of books (or everything else) made with > > Henning> ConTeXt? > > > > How about to make book about ConTeXt? > > :-))) > > I guess that with the upcomming luatex, mkiv or other lua-metapost, > there will never be a context book!? Why, the interface will not change, you shouldn't notice any difference between pdfTeX, XeTeX or LuaTeX. MkIV has a new method (xml setups) to use XML files but the old one (xml definitions) could be used without problems. Font setup changed slightly with MkIV but this happened also for XeTeX a few times in the past. The rest conceirns only bug fixes or new features. > ... but I hope there will be a "mark" (or any next conTeXt name) book http://www.pragma-ade.com/show-man-41.htm > ConTeXt is not a simple language library, but a full typing system > which need a true documentation. > So, even if a command reference could be read online (or in source > code ;-), http://www.pragma-ade.com/show-man-10.htm > An extended user manual (e.g. equivalent to the old manual + the > official tabular system, + ...) is still needed. You could try to merge the big manual and the starter manual. The sources are available only. > A ConTeXt book would provide a stable base for learning ConTeXt. > The ConTeXt version would also serve as basis for features, and any > future online docs could be classified as "before" (read "obsolete") > or "after" the context book. None of ConTeXt's manuals are obsolete, the big manuals provides the basic for daily works and the other manual cover special topics like colummns, integrations of MetaPost ... > Also all ConTeXt features from the book should be suppose to work > except if mentioned in an online correction documentation. 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