From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/40179 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Wolfgang Schuster" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: MkIV and DVI output Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:06:36 +0200 Message-ID: <115224fb0804140206o23d84c84ia094acb586799800@mail.gmail.com> References: <115224fb0804110228g7ef8e7ak9015f7b89c1d814@mail.gmail.com> <47FF3332.40908@wxs.nl> <6faad9f00804130601p79ede46i1a4ee106d8dac67f@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208164088 5868 80.91.229.12 (14 Apr 2008 09:08:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:08:08 +0000 (UTC) To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Apr 14 11:08:46 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JlKg8-0000rp-Lr for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:08:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CCE41FD30; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:08:04 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03240-02-6; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:07:20 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682211FD06; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:07:20 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544091FCFF for ; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:07:19 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03310-02-6 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:06:47 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com (yw-out-1718.google.com [74.125.46.155]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03951FCB0 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:06:46 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 6so991701ywa.74 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.150.138.8 with SMTP id l8mr5793001ybd.141.1208163996361; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.150.49.21 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:06:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6faad9f00804130601p79ede46i1a4ee106d8dac67f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:40179 Archived-At: On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: > > Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > is it possible to produce DVI files with Mark IV. > > > > > > I tried a simple file like > > > > > > \starttext > > > text > > > \stoptext > > > > > > with the command texexec --lua --backend=dvipdfm filename > > > > no, at quite some places i've hardcoded a pdftex backend > > > > at some point i will redo the backends, but i wonder if it really makes > > sense to support dvi any longer; i'd rather prepare for future formats > > Hello Wolfgang (and others), > > I don't know if anyone has noticed it, but XeTeX "doesn't support" dvi > format either. It can create some intermediate format (xdv), but it's > rather useless - I don't know any software that can work with it. And > even if LuaTeX would support dvi, you still need to write support for > fonts in DVI previewers. (DVI=DeVice Independent - something that > would definitely not be true any more with OpenType fonts; or rather - > is not even true any more at this moment with dozens of PS specials) Hi Mojca, I know xdv is only a intermediate format in XeTeX and xdv2pdf and xdvipdfmx are able to convert it into PDF format. I used always only the pdftex backend for ConTeXt and used dvi only to play with a few macro files where I needed it because they used PostScript to draw lines ... I have also no dvi viewer on my system and I'm inable to take a look at the output in dvi format. I tried to play only a little bit with MkIV and dvi but I never wanted to use it in real live, I tried only something what is at the moment only possible with dvi output. Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________