* Superscript text size @ 2008-01-21 13:14 morgan.brassel 2008-01-21 18:04 ` Aditya Mahajan 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: morgan.brassel @ 2008-01-21 13:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context Hi, The superscript in expressions like $R^N$ seems to be typeset with a bigger font size in ConTeXt than in LaTeX. Is it the wanted behaviour? From the typographic point of view, which is the best of the two renderings? Thanks for your advice, Morgan ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Superscript text size 2008-01-21 13:14 Superscript text size morgan.brassel @ 2008-01-21 18:04 ` Aditya Mahajan 2008-01-21 23:57 ` morgan.brassel 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2008-01-21 18:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Mon, 21 Jan 2008, morgan.brassel@free.fr wrote: > Hi, > > The superscript in expressions like $R^N$ seems to be typeset with a bigger font > size in ConTeXt than in LaTeX. Is it the wanted behaviour? From the typographic > point of view, which is the best of the two renderings? > > Thanks for your advice, That should not happen. I cannot see the different from my eyes. Here is my example. In both cases, bodyfont is 10pt, and scriptsize is 7pt. Do you see the differece? ConTeXT: \setupbodyfont[10pt] \starttext $R^N$ \stoptext LaTeX: \documentclass{minimal} \usepackage{lmodern} \begin{document} $R^N$ \end{document} ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Superscript text size 2008-01-21 18:04 ` Aditya Mahajan @ 2008-01-21 23:57 ` morgan.brassel 2008-01-22 0:15 ` Hans Hagen 2008-01-22 5:05 ` Aditya Mahajan 0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: morgan.brassel @ 2008-01-21 23:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Selon Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu>: > On Mon, 21 Jan 2008, morgan.brassel@free.fr wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > The superscript in expressions like $R^N$ seems to be typeset with a bigger > font > > size in ConTeXt than in LaTeX. Is it the wanted behaviour? From the > typographic > > point of view, which is the best of the two renderings? > > > > Thanks for your advice, > > That should not happen. I cannot see the different from my eyes. Here is > my example. In both cases, bodyfont is 10pt, and scriptsize is 7pt. Do you > see the differece? > > ConTeXT: > > \setupbodyfont[10pt] > \starttext $R^N$ \stoptext > > > LaTeX: > > \documentclass{minimal} > \usepackage{lmodern} > \begin{document} > $R^N$ > \end{document} > > As far as my eyes can see, the results are the same with 10pt and 11pt as document text size, but not with 12pt. Your two examples in 12pt look different to me. Am I wrong? ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Superscript text size 2008-01-21 23:57 ` morgan.brassel @ 2008-01-22 0:15 ` Hans Hagen 2008-01-22 5:05 ` Aditya Mahajan 1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2008-01-22 0:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users morgan.brassel@free.fr wrote: > As far as my eyes can see, the results are the same with 10pt and 11pt as > document text size, but not with 12pt. Your two examples in 12pt look different > to me. Am I wrong? context fonts sizes are not modelled after latex so i can imagine such differences to exist Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Superscript text size 2008-01-21 23:57 ` morgan.brassel 2008-01-22 0:15 ` Hans Hagen @ 2008-01-22 5:05 ` Aditya Mahajan 2008-01-22 9:20 ` morgan.brassel 1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2008-01-22 5:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Tue, 22 Jan 2008, morgan.brassel@free.fr wrote: > Selon Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu>: > >> On Mon, 21 Jan 2008, morgan.brassel@free.fr wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> The superscript in expressions like $R^N$ seems to be typeset with a bigger >> font >>> size in ConTeXt than in LaTeX. Is it the wanted behaviour? From the >> typographic >>> point of view, which is the best of the two renderings? >>> >>> Thanks for your advice, >> >> That should not happen. I cannot see the different from my eyes. Here is >> my example. In both cases, bodyfont is 10pt, and scriptsize is 7pt. Do you >> see the differece? >> >> ConTeXT: >> >> \setupbodyfont[10pt] >> \starttext $R^N$ \stoptext >> >> >> LaTeX: >> >> \documentclass{minimal} >> \usepackage{lmodern} >> \begin{document} >> $R^N$ >> \end{document} >> >> > > As far as my eyes can see, the results are the same with 10pt and 11pt as > document text size, but not with 12pt. Your two examples in 12pt look different > to me. Am I wrong? In the latex example, you need to change the document class to article, if you want 12pt fonts. To my eye, there is no difference between the two. But pdffonts tells me that latex is using LM Math Italic 8pt while ConTeXt is using LM Math Italic 9pt. This is not conclusive evidence since the fonts could be scaled. In any case, if you want to change ConTeXt's defaults for 12pt, you can redefine the following \unprotect \definebodyfontenvironment [\!!twelvepoint] [ \s!text=\!!twelvepoint, \s!script=\!!ninepoint, \s!scriptscript=\!!sevenpoint, \c!x=\!!tenpoint, \c!xx=\!!eightpoint, \c!big=\!!fourteenpointfour, \c!small=\!!tenpoint] \protect This is just copied from font-ini.tex. You can use 12pt, 11pt etc rather than the predefined macros if you want. Aditya ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Superscript text size 2008-01-22 5:05 ` Aditya Mahajan @ 2008-01-22 9:20 ` morgan.brassel 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: morgan.brassel @ 2008-01-22 9:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Selon Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu>: > On Tue, 22 Jan 2008, morgan.brassel@free.fr wrote: > > > Selon Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu>: > > > >> On Mon, 21 Jan 2008, morgan.brassel@free.fr wrote: > >> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> The superscript in expressions like $R^N$ seems to be typeset with a > bigger > >> font > >>> size in ConTeXt than in LaTeX. Is it the wanted behaviour? From the > >> typographic > >>> point of view, which is the best of the two renderings? > >>> > >>> Thanks for your advice, > >> > >> That should not happen. I cannot see the different from my eyes. Here is > >> my example. In both cases, bodyfont is 10pt, and scriptsize is 7pt. Do you > >> see the differece? > >> > >> ConTeXT: > >> > >> \setupbodyfont[10pt] > >> \starttext $R^N$ \stoptext > >> > >> > >> LaTeX: > >> > >> \documentclass{minimal} > >> \usepackage{lmodern} > >> \begin{document} > >> $R^N$ > >> \end{document} > >> > >> > > > > As far as my eyes can see, the results are the same with 10pt and 11pt as > > document text size, but not with 12pt. Your two examples in 12pt look > different > > to me. Am I wrong? > > In the latex example, you need to change the document class to article, if > you want 12pt fonts. To my eye, there is no difference between the two. > But pdffonts tells me that latex is using LM Math Italic 8pt while ConTeXt > is using LM Math Italic 9pt. This is not conclusive evidence since the > fonts could be scaled. Yes, it seemed to me that the font was a bit larger in ConTeXt than in LaTeX, so 9pt vs 8pt seems coherent with that feeling. Of course, I had to zoom to see a real difference... > > In any case, if you want to change ConTeXt's defaults for 12pt, you can > redefine the following > > \unprotect > \definebodyfontenvironment > [\!!twelvepoint] > [ \s!text=\!!twelvepoint, > \s!script=\!!ninepoint, > \s!scriptscript=\!!sevenpoint, > \c!x=\!!tenpoint, > \c!xx=\!!eightpoint, > \c!big=\!!fourteenpointfour, > \c!small=\!!tenpoint] > \protect > > This is just copied from font-ini.tex. You can use 12pt, 11pt etc rather > than the predefined macros if you want. Thank you for this solution. I'll try it if I don't get used to the ConTeXt size. > > Aditya > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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