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From: Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl>
To: Denis Maier <denismaier@mailbox.org>,
	mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: How do you deal with inappropriate ligatures?
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 13:58:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <120593ab-e5ff-91c0-6a6f-600333be6b03@xs4all.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1cc24121-f666-b35f-6ab0-a32db48fe3c5@mailbox.org>

On 10/12/2020 11:09 PM, Denis Maier wrote:
> Am 12.10.2020 um 22:35 schrieb Hans Hagen:
>> On 10/12/2020 4:55 PM, Denis Maier wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> with LuaLaTeX I used to use the selnolig package to disable 
>>> inappropriate ligatures. With ConTeXt I have just inputted the list 
>>> prepared by Hraban (based on a wordlist originating from selnolig), 
>>> but then ran into a curious bug (?) with disappearing characters (see 
>>> my posts from a couple of days ago). I'm now converting this list to 
>>> the \blockligatures mechanism (instead of using \replaceword), which 
>>> also has better kerning support due to Hans. When done, I'll of 
>>> course share this on the Wiki if there's any need for this.
>>>
>>> Now I'm wondering how others deal with inappropriate ligatures. Do 
>>> you just ignore them? Do there just so many.
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>> I played a bit with what we have and in a next upload you can do this:
>>
>> \startexceptions[de]
>> au{f-}{f}{ff}(f\zwnj f)asseyou block them on an ad-hoc basis, like 

>>> whenever they occur? Do you use scripts to pre-process your files 

>>> before typesetting? Do you just disable ligatures globally?

>>>

>>> I tend to think there must be an automatic way to deal with the most 

>>> awkward cases. The problem is that 
>> \stopexceptions
>>
>> \showglyphs
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> auffasse
>>
>> then is like:
>>
>> au\discretionary{f-}{-f}{f\zwnj f}asse
>>
>> \stoptext
> Oh, that looks interesting. So that would essentially be implemented 
> like hyphenation exceptions? Any drawbacks? Performance hit with large 
> exception lists? Kerning?
in a next release a

\zwj   block ligature, permit kern
\zwnj  block ligature, also inhibit kern

for now, lmtx only

Hans

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      parent reply	other threads:[~2020-10-14 11:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-12 14:55 Denis Maier
2020-10-12 20:35 ` Hans Hagen
2020-10-12 21:09   ` Denis Maier
2020-10-13 11:32     ` Hans Hagen
2020-10-14 11:58     ` Hans Hagen [this message]

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