From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/41195 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Charles P. Schaum" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: fonts and typescripts Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 10:47:06 -0500 Message-ID: <1211730426.16006.42.camel@elbereth> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1211730530 23265 80.91.229.12 (25 May 2008 15:48:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 15:48:50 +0000 (UTC) To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sun May 25 17:49:30 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K0ITN-00015m-K2 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sun, 25 May 2008 17:49:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65D11FBD0; Sun, 25 May 2008 17:48:34 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 27222-01-3; Sun, 25 May 2008 17:48:05 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C9271FB82; Sun, 25 May 2008 17:48:04 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A86EC1FB82 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 17:47:52 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24628-04-2 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 17:47:08 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from smtp101.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp101.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.200]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id A569C1FB38 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 17:47:06 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: (qmail 38733 invoked from network); 25 May 2008 15:47:06 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.101?) (verbo.solo@sbcglobal.net@69.148.176.174 with plain) by smtp101.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 May 2008 15:47:05 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: e5L2q8UVM1m93xqeLZjsWTw43ty7fiZFCvcFWQGTsFf2LgR2uj_K9JJoQk1lwn1S0VX4IgbauLTN.m4OhNy5APiEXuKQSMIgo1.oAvNWgEFo_0OQg1DbSUui4C7UQgBkIJM- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:41195 Archived-At: Thanks, Wolfgang. Now it's all good. Typescripts are a little opaque to me. I need to learn a lot more, to be sure. I want to thank the ConTeXt team for the great work on the product and the docs. I do respect that TeX has a culture and one cannot design a product that is alien to that. I have some thoughts where a few spots in the docs could be friendlier for someone coming from a standpoint of general design and typography. Sort of like "here's how you think with DTP" and "here's how it's done in ConTeXt." I might also suggest a couple of features; I was, however, able to Google for much that I needed (e.g., with character spacing). Yet I'm not one to just butt into people's workflow, given their time and investment. In general I find ConTeXt to be superior in many regards for my needs. Unfortunately, I am not a scientist. I have a bachelor's degree in computer science with a minor in Germanistik, and I have two master's degrees in theology, having studied in Germany and the US. So I want to edit books that celebrate the history of thought and typography. ConTeXt is the best positioned to make beautiful, modern books, surpassing many generally available commercial products. Here's an interesting point: InDesign creates ligatures, but irrespective of what is going on in the actual font. So, unless you use Unicode Greek, Hebrew, Syriac, Arabic, or whatever, the older style fonts that still inhabit the commercial multilingual industry get mangled. TeX and friends are smart and don't do that. They can handle some complicated typography more robustly than many others. InDesign and InCopy use a version control system where one can "check out," "check in," and track changes in a parallel workflow. Grep searching has also been integrated. It seems to me that if something like Scribus had a means to interlink with ConTeXt, cvs / svn or the like, and had a means of automatically generating code and previews, you would have a typesetting system that could compete feature for feature with InDesign and InCopy, and surpass it in some cases. Charles ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________