* hiding content
@ 2008-07-24 10:51 Alan Stone
2008-07-24 11:39 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2008-07-24 12:34 ` Alan Stone
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From: Alan Stone @ 2008-07-24 10:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Mojca asked...
>Is there a way to somehow
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What's the current status on this issue ?
Alan
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread* Re: hiding content 2008-07-24 10:51 hiding content Alan Stone @ 2008-07-24 11:39 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2008-07-24 12:34 ` Alan Stone 1 sibling, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2008-07-24 11:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Alan Stone <software.list.1es9s@gmail.com> wrote: > Re: > http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20050707.214524.2b87e5f1.en.html > > Mojca asked... > >>Is there a way to somehow >> >>\starthidden >>... >>\stophidden, >> >>which would leave exactly the same amount of blank space as if the >>content would be typeset? > > What's the current status on this issue ? What's wrong with the methods offered in the thread. Do you want to hide only text or also figures, tables, formulae etc. Is the content to be hidden on one page or do you need a solution that will work also over page breaks. Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: hiding content 2008-07-24 10:51 hiding content Alan Stone 2008-07-24 11:39 ` Wolfgang Schuster @ 2008-07-24 12:34 ` Alan Stone 2008-07-24 13:03 ` Wolfgang Schuster 1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Alan Stone @ 2008-07-24 12:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 860 bytes --] I understood from this post http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20050708.105010.33153980.en.html there were issues with the different solutions offered. >Do you want to hide only text or also figures, tables, formulae etc. For the time being there's only text, however in a later stage there will be figures/pics too. >do you need a solution that >will work also over page breaks. Yes, to make a preview version of a book. Alan On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Alan Stone <software.list.1es9s@gmail.com> wrote: > Re: > http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20050707.214524.2b87e5f1.en.html > > Mojca asked... > > >Is there a way to somehow > > > >\starthidden > >... > >\stophidden, > > > >which would leave exactly the same amount of blank space as if the > >content would be typeset? > > What's the current status on this issue ? > > Alan > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 1450 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: hiding content 2008-07-24 12:34 ` Alan Stone @ 2008-07-24 13:03 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2008-07-24 13:21 ` Alan Stone 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2008-07-24 13:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Alan Stone <software.list.1es9s@gmail.com> wrote: > I understood from this post > http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20050708.105010.33153980.en.html > there were issues with the different solutions offered. You should give it a try, a few of the points concerned security reasons and old version of Acrobat Reader, there is also a wiki page about this topic. http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Hiding_Content >>Do you want to hide only text or also figures, tables, formulae etc. > > For the time being there's only text, however in a later stage there will be > figures/pics too. > >>do you need a solution that >>will work also over page breaks. > > Yes, to make a preview version of a book. And you want to hide part of the content for ... Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: hiding content 2008-07-24 13:03 ` Wolfgang Schuster @ 2008-07-24 13:21 ` Alan Stone 2008-07-24 13:32 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2008-07-24 15:26 ` Charles P. Schaum 0 siblings, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Alan Stone @ 2008-07-24 13:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1622 bytes --] >And you want to hide part of the content for ... Enabling people to view the pdf preview version (limited, containing excerpts) before acquiring the full version. Alan On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Wolfgang Schuster < schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Alan Stone > <software.list.1es9s@gmail.com> wrote: > > I understood from this post > > > http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20050708.105010.33153980.en.html > > there were issues with the different solutions offered. > > You should give it a try, a few of the points concerned security reasons > and > old version of Acrobat Reader, there is also a wiki page about this topic. > > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Hiding_Content > > >>Do you want to hide only text or also figures, tables, formulae etc. > > > > For the time being there's only text, however in a later stage there will > be > > figures/pics too. > > > >>do you need a solution that > >>will work also over page breaks. > > > > Yes, to make a preview version of a book. > > And you want to hide part of the content for ... > > > Wolfgang > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 2750 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: hiding content 2008-07-24 13:21 ` Alan Stone @ 2008-07-24 13:32 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2008-07-24 19:22 ` Mojca Miklavec 2008-07-24 19:43 ` Peter Münster 2008-07-24 15:26 ` Charles P. Schaum 1 sibling, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2008-07-24 13:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Alan Stone <software.list.1es9s@gmail.com> wrote: >>And you want to hide part of the content for ... > > Enabling people to view the pdf preview version (limited, containing > excerpts) before acquiring the full version. In this case the solution offered in the thread are no solution for your, it's too easy for the customers to make the hidden content visible. Wolfgang PS: Can you try to avoid top posts. ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: hiding content 2008-07-24 13:32 ` Wolfgang Schuster @ 2008-07-24 19:22 ` Mojca Miklavec 2008-07-24 19:43 ` Peter Münster 1 sibling, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2008-07-24 19:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Alan Stone > <software.list.1es9s@gmail.com> wrote: >>>And you want to hide part of the content for ... >> >> Enabling people to view the pdf preview version (limited, containing >> excerpts) before acquiring the full version. > > In this case the solution offered in the thread are no solution for your, > it's too easy for the customers to make the hidden content visible. True. Most readers don't even hide the content if you use javascript to hide it. If you want to prevent people from seing the content, you may not put your text there on the first place. But the exact usage depends. I would only send them a few pages out of the whole document, I would not try to send them 500 pages with 5.000 words. Mojca ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: hiding content 2008-07-24 13:32 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2008-07-24 19:22 ` Mojca Miklavec @ 2008-07-24 19:43 ` Peter Münster 2008-07-25 6:29 ` Wolfgang Schuster ` (2 more replies) 1 sibling, 3 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Peter Münster @ 2008-07-24 19:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Thu, Jul 24 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > > Enabling people to view the pdf preview version (limited, containing > > excerpts) before acquiring the full version. > > In this case the solution offered in the thread are no solution for your, > it's too easy for the customers to make the hidden content visible. Shouldn't it be very easy with MKIV, to replace the content to hide with whatever you want? Examples: - the replacement are only the corresponding line-skips - the replacement are random letters printed in white Cheers, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: hiding content 2008-07-24 19:43 ` Peter Münster @ 2008-07-25 6:29 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2008-07-25 11:53 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2008-07-27 12:26 ` Taco Hoekwater 2 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2008-07-25 6:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Peter Münster <pmlists@free.fr> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 24 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > >> > Enabling people to view the pdf preview version (limited, containing >> > excerpts) before acquiring the full version. >> >> In this case the solution offered in the thread are no solution for your, >> it's too easy for the customers to make the hidden content visible. > > Shouldn't it be very easy with MKIV, to replace the content to hide with > whatever you want? > Examples: > - the replacement are only the corresponding line-skips this is easy if the text is a complete paragraph and no linebreaks are involved but it's going to be complicated with headers, linebreaks, tables, figures etc. > - the replacement are random letters printed in white % engine=luatex \definestartstop [randomized] [before={\bgroup\setcharactercasing[5]}, after=\egroup] \starttext \input knuth \startrandomized \input knuth \stoprandomized \input knuth \stoptext Regards, Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: hiding content 2008-07-24 19:43 ` Peter Münster 2008-07-25 6:29 ` Wolfgang Schuster @ 2008-07-25 11:53 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2008-07-25 14:40 ` Alan Stone 2008-07-27 12:26 ` Taco Hoekwater 2 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2008-07-25 11:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Peter Münster <pmlists@free.fr> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 24 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > >> > Enabling people to view the pdf preview version (limited, containing >> > excerpts) before acquiring the full version. >> >> In this case the solution offered in the thread are no solution for your, >> it's too easy for the customers to make the hidden content visible. > > Shouldn't it be very easy with MKIV, to replace the content to hide with > whatever you want? > Examples: > - the replacement are only the corresponding line-skips %\disablemode[hiding] \enablemode[hiding] \unprotect \def\starthiding {\dostartbuffer[hiddencontent][starthiding][stophiding]} \def\stophiding {\bgroup \setbox\scratchbox\vbox{\getbuffer[hiddencontent]}% \getnoflines{\dimexpr\ht\scratchbox+\dp\scratchbox\relax}% \dorecurse{\number\noflines}{\blank[\v!force,\v!line]}% \egroup} \protect \startnotmode[hiding] \let\starthiding\relax \let\stophiding \relax \stopnotmode %\showgrid \starttext \dorecurse{2}{\input knuth\par} \starthiding \input tufte \stophiding \dorecurse{2}{\input ward\par} \starthiding \input zapf \stophiding \input knuth \stoptext > - the replacement are random letters printed in white > > Cheers, Peter Regards, Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: hiding content 2008-07-25 11:53 ` Wolfgang Schuster @ 2008-07-25 14:40 ` Alan Stone 0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Alan Stone @ 2008-07-25 14:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 467 bytes --] How come this doesn't work ? \defineblock[prev] \defineblock[full] \hideblocks[full] %\hideblocks[prev] \def\previewMsg{This part is hidden} \def\showPreviewMsg{\beginprev \hairline \previewMsg \hairline \endprev} \starttext \input tufte \showPreviewMsg % it doesn't show %\beginprev % \hairline % \previewMsg % \hairline %\endprev \beginfull \input knuth \endfull \input tufte \stoptext Alan P.S. What is the \processblocks command for ? [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 680 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: hiding content 2008-07-24 19:43 ` Peter Münster 2008-07-25 6:29 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2008-07-25 11:53 ` Wolfgang Schuster @ 2008-07-27 12:26 ` Taco Hoekwater 2 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2008-07-27 12:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Peter Münster wrote: > On Thu, Jul 24 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > >>> Enabling people to view the pdf preview version (limited, containing >>> excerpts) before acquiring the full version. >> In this case the solution offered in the thread are no solution for your, >> it's too easy for the customers to make the hidden content visible. > > Shouldn't it be very easy with MKIV, to replace the content to hide with > whatever you want? Yes, pretty easy, but it depends a bit on what you want. Here is a solution that really removes selected boxes from the output PDF (it is un-optimised on purpose): % engine = luatex \defineattribute [ghosted] \def\starthidden {\dosetattribute{ghosted}\plusone} \def\stophidden {\doresetattribute{ghosted}} \ctxlua{ callback.register ('pre_output_filter', function (h) for v in node.traverse(h) do if ( ( v.id == node.id('hlist') or v.id == node.id('vlist') ) and ( node.has_attribute(v,\dogetattributeid{ghosted}) ) ) then node.free(v.list) v.list = nil end end return true end) } > Examples: > - the replacement are only the corresponding line-skips > - the replacement are random letters printed in white You can get those effects by changing the lua loop node.traverse to do something more interesting (perhaps by recursive descend). Best wishes, Taci ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: hiding content 2008-07-24 13:21 ` Alan Stone 2008-07-24 13:32 ` Wolfgang Schuster @ 2008-07-24 15:26 ` Charles P. Schaum 2008-07-24 17:47 ` Alan Stone 2008-07-25 7:46 ` Alan Stone 1 sibling, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Charles P. Schaum @ 2008-07-24 15:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Why not, if all else fails, do a run of the completed matter to see what the pagination would be, then do something like: \newif\ifhidden % Uncomment this if you want to hide content. % \hiddentrue \ifhidden % . . . preferrably use ConTeXt-friendly pagination % commands; this was taken from a plain old TeX file. % Shove in white space or \phantom{} boxes with dummy text of % equivalent length; ConTeXt likes its own \blank{} macro. % Raw TeX stuff can mess up pagination and spacing. % % I'm not sure if a \vbox to <dimen> {} works well or not here. % Just try a few ways to see. \else % Put all your usual content here. \fi It's a kludge, but it should work in a pinch. Charles On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 15:21 +0200, Alan Stone wrote: > >And you want to hide part of the content for ... > > Enabling people to view the pdf preview version (limited, containing > excerpts) before acquiring the full version. > > Alan > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Wolfgang Schuster > <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Alan Stone > <software.list.1es9s@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I understood from this post > > > http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20050708.105010.33153980.en.html > > there were issues with the different solutions offered. > > > You should give it a try, a few of the points concerned > security reasons and > old version of Acrobat Reader, there is also a wiki page about > this topic. > > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Hiding_Content > > >>Do you want to hide only text or also figures, tables, > formulae etc. > > > > For the time being there's only text, however in a later > stage there will be > > figures/pics too. > > > >>do you need a solution that > >>will work also over page breaks. > > > > Yes, to make a preview version of a book. > > > And you want to hide part of the content for ... > > > > Wolfgang > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add > an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: hiding content 2008-07-24 15:26 ` Charles P. Schaum @ 2008-07-24 17:47 ` Alan Stone 2008-07-24 18:02 ` Alan Stone 2008-07-25 7:46 ` Alan Stone 1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Alan Stone @ 2008-07-24 17:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 4027 bytes --] What do you mean by "do a run of the completed matter to see what the pagination would be" ? Alan On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Charles P. Schaum <verbo.solo@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Why not, if all else fails, do a run of the completed matter to see what > the pagination would be, then do something like: > > \newif\ifhidden > > % Uncomment this if you want to hide content. > % \hiddentrue > > \ifhidden > % . . . preferrably use ConTeXt-friendly pagination > % commands; this was taken from a plain old TeX file. > % Shove in white space or \phantom{} boxes with dummy text of > % equivalent length; ConTeXt likes its own \blank{} macro. > % Raw TeX stuff can mess up pagination and spacing. > % > % I'm not sure if a \vbox to <dimen> {} works well or not here. > % Just try a few ways to see. > \else > % Put all your usual content here. > \fi > > It's a kludge, but it should work in a pinch. > > Charles > > On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 15:21 +0200, Alan Stone wrote: > > >And you want to hide part of the content for ... > > > > Enabling people to view the pdf preview version (limited, containing > > excerpts) before acquiring the full version. > > > > Alan > > > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Wolfgang Schuster > > <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Alan Stone > > <software.list.1es9s@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I understood from this post > > > > > > http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20050708.105010.33153980.en.html > > > there were issues with the different solutions offered. > > > > > > You should give it a try, a few of the points concerned > > security reasons and > > old version of Acrobat Reader, there is also a wiki page about > > this topic. > > > > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Hiding_Content > > > > >>Do you want to hide only text or also figures, tables, > > formulae etc. > > > > > > For the time being there's only text, however in a later > > stage there will be > > > figures/pics too. > > > > > >>do you need a solution that > > >>will work also over page breaks. > > > > > > Yes, to make a preview version of a book. > > > > > > And you want to hide part of the content for ... > > > > > > > > Wolfgang > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add > > an entry to the Wiki! > > > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 6980 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: hiding content 2008-07-24 17:47 ` Alan Stone @ 2008-07-24 18:02 ` Alan Stone 0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Alan Stone @ 2008-07-24 18:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 241 bytes --] Eureka! I understand what you mean. :O) Alan On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Alan Stone <software.list.1es9s@gmail.com> wrote: > What do you mean by "do a run of the completed matter to see what > the pagination would be" ? > > Alan > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 583 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: hiding content 2008-07-24 15:26 ` Charles P. Schaum 2008-07-24 17:47 ` Alan Stone @ 2008-07-25 7:46 ` Alan Stone 1 sibling, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Alan Stone @ 2008-07-25 7:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 768 bytes --] Instead of looking to insert "exactly the same amount of blank space as if the content would be typeset", is it possible to generate, in one compile job, the document's preview version (*) with its full version (non-interactive) table of contents (TOC), index, list of figures, ... instead ? (*) using hidden texblocks, or \new\ifhidden ... \ifhidden ... \else ... \fi ( without the spooky phantom thingies ), showing a text block indicating "this part is hidden", to hide whatever is required ( headers, linebreaks, tables, figures etc. ) Or... Create a batch file to - first generate the full version, then - generate the preview version, then - replace the preview version's TOC, index, list of figures, ... with the full version's (non-interactive one) ? Alan [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 863 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
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