hyphenated url

hyphenated url

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi,

the "%" is a frequently used character in URL.
But \hyphenatedurl{} can deal with it ...

Does someone has a fix?


\starttext
text\footnote{test \hyphenatedurl{www.test%it.com} test.} text.
\stoptext


Thanks,
Steffen
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Re: hyphenated url

[Philipp Gesang]

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On 2010-10-25 <10:25:55>, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> the "%" is a frequently used character in URL.
> But \hyphenatedurl{} can deal with it ...
> 
> Does someone has a fix?
> 
> 
> \starttext
> text\footnote{test \hyphenatedurl{www.test%it.com} test.} text.
Ugly, but it works:

text\footnote{test \hyphenatedurl{www.test\letterpercent it.com} test.} text.

Regards, Philipp

PS: As I understand, the percent sign appears mostly in
url-encoded strings. Couldn’t you just convert that to unicode
and let the browser do the re-encoding when the url is accessed?

> \stoptext
> 
> 
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> Steffen
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Re: hyphenated url

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 25.10.2010 um 11:16 schrieb Philipp Gesang:

> On 2010-10-25 <10:25:55>, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> the "%" is a frequently used character in URL.
>> But \hyphenatedurl{} can deal with it ...
>> 
>> Does someone has a fix?
>> 
>> 
>> \starttext
>> text\footnote{test \hyphenatedurl{www.test%it.com} test.} text.
> Ugly, but it works:
> 
> text\footnote{test \hyphenatedurl{www.test\letterpercent it.com} test.} text.


If setupinteraction is set [state=start] it does not work:


! Undefined control sequence.


\normalhyphenatedurl ...phenatedurlnormal \let \b 
                                                  \dohyphenatedurlbefore \le...
\@@ddfootnotetitle ...w.test\letterpercent it.com}
                                                   test.
\dododescriptioncomponent ...onparameter \c!title 
                                                  }}}\endgroup \fi \fi \fi \...
\@@notemakedescription ...list =,\c!bookmark =,][]
                                                  \xdef \currentnotenumber {...
l.27 ...durl{www.test\letterpercent it.com} test.}
                                                   text.
? 



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Re: hyphenated url

[Philipp Gesang]

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On 2010-10-25 <11:39:12>, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> 
> Am 25.10.2010 um 11:16 schrieb Philipp Gesang:
> 
> > On 2010-10-25 <10:25:55>, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> the "%" is a frequently used character in URL.
> >> But \hyphenatedurl{} can deal with it ...
> >> 
> >> Does someone has a fix?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> \starttext
> >> text\footnote{test \hyphenatedurl{www.test%it.com} test.} text.
> > Ugly, but it works:
> > 
> > text\footnote{test \hyphenatedurl{www.test\letterpercent it.com} test.} text.
> 
> 
> If setupinteraction is set [state=start] it does not work:

Did you try exactly this:

··8<·····························································
\setupinteraction[state=start]
\starttext
text\footnote{test \hyphenatedurl{www.test\letterpercent it.com} test.} text.
\stoptext
··8<·····························································

?

> 
> 
> ! Undefined control sequence.
> 
> 
> \normalhyphenatedurl ...phenatedurlnormal \let \b 
>                                                   \dohyphenatedurlbefore \le...
> \@@ddfootnotetitle ...w.test\letterpercent it.com}
>                                                    test.
> \dododescriptioncomponent ...onparameter \c!title 
>                                                   }}}\endgroup \fi \fi \fi \...
> \@@notemakedescription ...list =,\c!bookmark =,][]
>                                                   \xdef \currentnotenumber {...
> l.27 ...durl{www.test\letterpercent it.com} test.}
>                                                    text.
> ? 

Ahh, looks like your ‘\hyphenatedurl’ is not yet unexpanded …
how old is your context? With the one from  2010.10.22 16:46 it
definitely works. If you don’t want to update, check
lang-url.mkiv for ‘\def\hyphenatedurl#1%’ and prefix it with an
‘\unexpanded’.

Philipp

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Re: hyphenated url

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 25.10.2010 um 11:50 schrieb Philipp Gesang:

> On 2010-10-25 <11:39:12>, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>> 
>> Am 25.10.2010 um 11:16 schrieb Philipp Gesang:
>> 
>>> On 2010-10-25 <10:25:55>, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> the "%" is a frequently used character in URL.
>>>> But \hyphenatedurl{} can deal with it ...
>>>> 
>>>> Does someone has a fix?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> \starttext
>>>> text\footnote{test \hyphenatedurl{www.test%it.com} test.} text.
>>> Ugly, but it works:
>>> 
>>> text\footnote{test \hyphenatedurl{www.test\letterpercent it.com} test.} text.
>> 
>> 
>> If setupinteraction is set [state=start] it does not work:
> 
> Did you try exactly this:
> 
> ··8<·····························································
> \setupinteraction[state=start]
> \starttext
> text\footnote{test \hyphenatedurl{www.test\letterpercent it.com} test.} text.
> \stoptext
> ··8<·····························································



sorry, in the meanwhile I was experimenting with another hack (but does not work when used in footnotes) that mixed things up:


\let\normalhyphenatedurl\hyphenatedurl

\bgroup

\catcode`\%=11

\gdef\hyphenatedurl
 {\bgroup
  \catcode`\%=11
  \expandafter\egroup
  \normalhyphenatedurl}

\egroup



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Re: hyphenated url

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 25.10.2010 um 11:16 schrieb Philipp Gesang:

> text\footnote{test \hyphenatedurl{www.test\letterpercent it.com} test.} text.
> 
> Regards, Philipp
> 
> PS: As I understand, the percent sign appears mostly in
> url-encoded strings. Couldn’t you just convert that to unicode
> and let the browser do the re-encoding when the url is accessed?


I am not sure what you mean ... when I enter the code as above pressing the link in Acrobat gives:


http://www.test%25it.com


So using \hyphenatedurl doesn't make sense anymore ... or did I miss the crucial part?!


Steffen
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Re: hyphenated url

[Philipp Gesang]

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On 2010-10-25 <12:05:37>, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> 
> \let\normalhyphenatedurl\hyphenatedurl
> 
> \bgroup
> 
> \catcode`\%=11
> 
> \gdef\hyphenatedurl

\unexpanded\gdef\hyphenatedurl

Should work in footnotes. Regards, Philipp

>  {\bgroup
>   \catcode`\%=11
>   \expandafter\egroup
>   \normalhyphenatedurl}
> 
> \egroup
> 
> 
> 
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Re: hyphenated url

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 25.10.2010 um 12:26 schrieb Philipp Gesang:

> On 2010-10-25 <12:05:37>, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>> 
>> \let\normalhyphenatedurl\hyphenatedurl
>> 
>> \bgroup
>> 
>> \catcode`\%=11
>> 
>> \gdef\hyphenatedurl
> 
> \unexpanded\gdef\hyphenatedurl
> 
> Should work in footnotes. Regards, Philipp


No, it doesn't (see below).
Do you have an other idea?

Thanks, Steffen
(ConTeXt  ver: 2010.10.21)


Runaway argument?
{test \hyphenatedurl {www.test\par \stoptext \par 
! File ended while scanning use of \@@notemakedescription.

system          > error on line 0 in file : File ended while scanning use of \@@notemakedescription ...


\let\normalhyphenatedurl\hyphenatedurl

\bgroup

\catcode`\%=11

\unexpanded\gdef\hyphenatedurl
 {\bgroup
  \catcode`\%=11
  \expandafter\egroup
  \normalhyphenatedurl}

\egroup

\setupinteraction
   [state=start]

\starttext

text\footnote{test \hyphenatedurl{www.test%it.com} test.} text.

\stoptext




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Re: hyphenated url

[Philipp Gesang]

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On 2010-10-25 <12:45:17>, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> 
> Am 25.10.2010 um 12:26 schrieb Philipp Gesang:
> > \unexpanded\gdef\hyphenatedurl
> > 
> > Should work in footnotes. Regards, Philipp
> 
> 
> No, it doesn't (see below).
> Do you have an other idea?

Right; it works in footnotes but doesn’t accomplish what you
want. Sorry, I tried a lot but ‘\letterpercent’ is the only
way it works for me.

Concerning the urlencoding I referred to browsers automatically
converting raw urls, like for instance

  http://www.google.com/search?q=ähre

, which is encoded as

  http://www.google.com/search?q=%C3%A4hre

by my browser. As long as your urls mainly consist of unicode
strings you might not need the actual (ascii) percent sign.  In
this case you could be fine simply by converting strings like
‘%C3%A4hre’ to ‘Ähre’, rendering urls percent-less, and rely on
the browsers to re-encode them on the fly. Might be a bit far
fetched, though.

Philipp


> 
> Thanks, Steffen
> (ConTeXt  ver: 2010.10.21)
> 
> 
> Runaway argument?
> {test \hyphenatedurl {www.test\par \stoptext \par 
> ! File ended while scanning use of \@@notemakedescription.
> 
> system          > error on line 0 in file : File ended while scanning use of \@@notemakedescription ...
> 
> 
> \let\normalhyphenatedurl\hyphenatedurl
> 
> \bgroup
> 
> \catcode`\%=11
> 
> \unexpanded\gdef\hyphenatedurl
>  {\bgroup
>   \catcode`\%=11
>   \expandafter\egroup
>   \normalhyphenatedurl}
> 
> \egroup
> 
> \setupinteraction
>    [state=start]
> 
> \starttext
> 
> text\footnote{test \hyphenatedurl{www.test%it.com} test.} text.
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> 
> 
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Re: hyphenated url

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 25.10.2010 um 15:12 schrieb Philipp Gesang:

> Concerning the urlencoding I referred to browsers automatically
> converting raw urls, like for instance
> 
>  http://www.google.com/search?q=ähre
> 
> , which is encoded as
> 
>  http://www.google.com/search?q=%C3%A4hre
> 
> by my browser. As long as your urls mainly consist of unicode
> strings you might not need the actual (ascii) percent sign.  In
> this case you could be fine simply by converting strings like
> ‘%C3%A4hre’ to ‘Ähre’, rendering urls percent-less, and rely on
> the browsers to re-encode them on the fly. Might be a bit far
> fetched, though.



It is the space the encodes to %20. Thus, it might look a bit strange eg. in cases like this:

http://www.cirp.ru/conferences/new%20neighborhood%20policy/publications/frellesen%20paper.doc


There is no way to typeset this in ConTeXt MkIV???

Steffen
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Re: hyphenated url

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Mon, 25 Oct 2010, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

> Hi,
>
> the "%" is a frequently used character in URL.
> But \hyphenatedurl{} can deal with it ...
>
> Does someone has a fix?
>
>
> \starttext
> text\footnote{test \hyphenatedurl{www.test%it.com} test.} text.
> \stoptext

An extreme solution:

\startcatcodetable \txtcatcodes
     \catcode`\^^I = 10
     \catcode`\^^M =  5
     \catcode`\^^L =  5
     \catcode`\    = 10
     \catcode`\^^Z =  9
     \catcode`\\   =  0
     \catcode`\{   =  1
     \catcode`\}   =  2
%   \catcode`\%   = 14
\stopcatcodetable
\starttext
\asciimode
text\footnote{test \hyphenatedurl{www.test%it.com} test.} text.
\stoptext

Aditya
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Re: hyphenated url

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 25.10.2010 um 19:30 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:

> On Mon, 25 Oct 2010, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> the "%" is a frequently used character in URL.
>> But \hyphenatedurl{} can deal with it ...
>> 
>> Does someone has a fix?
>> 
>> 
>> \starttext
>> text\footnote{test \hyphenatedurl{www.test%it.com} test.} text.
>> \stoptext
> 
> An extreme solution:
> 
> \startcatcodetable \txtcatcodes
>    \catcode`\^^I = 10
>    \catcode`\^^M =  5
>    \catcode`\^^L =  5
>    \catcode`\    = 10
>    \catcode`\^^Z =  9
>    \catcode`\\   =  0
>    \catcode`\{   =  1
>    \catcode`\}   =  2
> %   \catcode`\%   = 14
> \stopcatcodetable
> \starttext
> \asciimode
> text\footnote{test \hyphenatedurl{www.test%it.com} test.} text.
> \stoptext



As I don't have any experience with "\asciimode" "I am not sure if I can map this entirely on a complex book project...

Any known side-effects?

Steffen
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Re: hyphenated url

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Mon, 25 Oct 2010, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

>
> Am 25.10.2010 um 19:30 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:
>
>> On Mon, 25 Oct 2010, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> the "%" is a frequently used character in URL.
>>> But \hyphenatedurl{} can deal with it ...
>>>
>>> Does someone has a fix?
>>>
>>>
>>> \starttext
>>> text\footnote{test \hyphenatedurl{www.test%it.com} test.} text.
>>> \stoptext
>>
>> An extreme solution:
>>
>> \startcatcodetable \txtcatcodes
>>    \catcode`\^^I = 10
>>    \catcode`\^^M =  5
>>    \catcode`\^^L =  5
>>    \catcode`\    = 10
>>    \catcode`\^^Z =  9
>>    \catcode`\\   =  0
>>    \catcode`\{   =  1
>>    \catcode`\}   =  2
>> %   \catcode`\%   = 14
>> \stopcatcodetable
>> \starttext
>> \asciimode
>> text\footnote{test \hyphenatedurl{www.test%it.com} test.} text.
>> \stoptext
>
>
>
> As I don't have any experience with "\asciimode" "I am not sure if I can map this entirely on a complex book project...

In addition to usual asciimode, I changed the definition so that % does 
not have its usual meaning. So, % is no longer a comment; it just typesets 
percentage sign. You can get a comment using

\starthiding ... \stophiding.

> Any known side-effects?

* You need to use \math{...} to go into math mode. $ will just give a 
dollar.

* You need \startformula ... \stopformula to go into display math.
$$...$$ will just print dollars.

* _ in text mode will produce an underscore instead of an error. _ in math 
mode will work fine. The same for ^.

* You need

\starttex(something) (I don't remember on the top of my head)
\def\whatever#1{...}
\stoptex(something)

to change the definition of a macro.

I have never really tested it on a large document. Maybe you can just add 
this and see if everything compiles.

Aditya

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Re: hyphenated url

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 25.10.2010 um 23:00 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:

> In addition to usual asciimode, I changed the definition so that % does not have its usual meaning. So, % is no longer a comment; it just typesets percentage sign. You can get a comment using
> 
> \starthiding ... \stophiding.

But there is now command which end at the end of the line like a normal comment, maybe this should be added to luatex (like we have \Ustartmath ... \Ustopmath as alternative to $...$)

>> Any known side-effects?
> 
> * You need to use \math{...} to go into math mode. $ will just give a dollar.

There is also \formula{...}.

> * You need \startformula ... \stopformula to go into display math.
> $$...$$ will just print dollars.
> 
> * _ in text mode will produce an underscore instead of an error. _ in math mode will work fine. The same for ^.
> 
> * You need
> 
> \starttex(something) (I don't remember on the top of my head)
> \def\whatever#1{...}
> \stoptex(something)
> 
> to change the definition of a macro.

\starttexcode
...
\stoptexcode

Wolfgang

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Re: hyphenated url

[Philipp Gesang]

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On 2010-10-25 <17:00:39>, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Oct 2010, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> 
> >
> >Am 25.10.2010 um 19:30 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:
> >
> >>On Mon, 25 Oct 2010, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hi,
> >>>
> >>>the "%" is a frequently used character in URL.
> >>>But \hyphenatedurl{} can deal with it ...
> >>>
> >>>Does someone has a fix?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>\starttext
> >>>text\footnote{test \hyphenatedurl{www.test%it.com} test.} text.
> >>>\stoptext
> >>
> >>An extreme solution:
> >>
> >>\startcatcodetable \txtcatcodes
> >>   \catcode`\^^I = 10
> >>   \catcode`\^^M =  5
> >>   \catcode`\^^L =  5
> >>   \catcode`\    = 10
> >>   \catcode`\^^Z =  9
> >>   \catcode`\\   =  0
> >>   \catcode`\{   =  1
> >>   \catcode`\}   =  2
> >>%   \catcode`\%   = 14
> >>\stopcatcodetable
> >>\starttext
> >>\asciimode
> >>text\footnote{test \hyphenatedurl{www.test%it.com} test.} text.
> >>\stoptext
> >
> >
> >
> >As I don't have any experience with "\asciimode" "I am not sure if I can map this entirely on a complex book project...
> 
> In addition to usual asciimode, I changed the definition so that %
> does not have its usual meaning. So, % is no longer a comment; it
> just typesets percentage sign. You can get a comment using
> 
> \starthiding ... \stophiding.
> 
> >Any known side-effects?
> 
> * You need to use \math{...} to go into math mode. $ will just give
> a dollar.
> 
> * You need \startformula ... \stopformula to go into display math.
> $$...$$ will just print dollars.
> 
> * _ in text mode will produce an underscore instead of an error. _
> in math mode will work fine. The same for ^.
> 
> * You need
> 
> \starttex(something) (I don't remember on the top of my head)
> \def\whatever#1{...}
> \stoptex(something)
> 
> to change the definition of a macro.
> 
> I have never really tested it on a large document. Maybe you can
> just add this and see if everything compiles.

Hi Aditya, Steffen and others,

I was toying around with catcode tables too. Shouldn’t it suffice
to simply change % to ‘other’? This way you can keep the dollar
style math.

Philipp

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\setupinteraction[state=start]

\unprotect
\newcatcodetable \urlcatcodes % ordinary \ctxcatcodes except for minor changes
\startcatcodetable \urlcatcodes
    \catcode`\^^I = 10
    \catcode`\^^M =  5
    \catcode`\^^L =  5
    \catcode`\    = 10
    \catcode`\^^Z =  9
    \catcode`\\   =  0
    \catcode`\{   =  1
    \catcode`\}   =  2
    \catcode`\$   =  3
    \catcode`\&   =  4
    \catcode`\#   =  6
    \catcode`\^   =  7
    \catcode`\_   =  8
    \catcode`\~   = 13
    \catcode`\|   = 13
    \catcode`\%   = \@@other
    \catcode`\*   = \@@comment % comment this out if you don’t need line comments
\stopcatcodetable

\protect

\starttext

\bgroup
  TEST
  \setcatcodetable \urlcatcodes
  \hyphenatedurl{www.test%it.com}
  * this should be treated as comment
  \footnote{
    \hyphenatedurl{www.test%it.com}
  }
  Math mode: $(x)(y)\,(Fx\,.\,x=y\,.\supset\,Fy)$
  TEST
\egroup

\stoptext

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Re: hyphenated url

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi Aditya, Philipp and all,

thank you very much for your interesting ideas!
As far as I understood, your starting point is to avoid "%" being treated as "comment" ...
This is nice for controlled situations.

But in real life projects there are many, various situations where the "%" is used and needed as "comment"!


Isn't there a way to treat "%" as a regular character dedicated in the \hyphenatedurl{} environment only??


Steffen

PS @ Philipp: Using "*" as line comment would start the problem again, as "*" is also a valid part of URL addresses ...



of course we need to keep a character for comment.

Am 26.10.2010 um 00:49 schrieb Philipp Gesang:

> Hi Aditya, Steffen and others,
> 
> I was toying around with catcode tables too. Shouldn’t it suffice
> to simply change % to ‘other’? This way you can keep the dollar
> style math.
> 
> Philipp
> 
> ···8<····························································
> 
> \setupinteraction[state=start]
> 
> \unprotect
> \newcatcodetable \urlcatcodes % ordinary \ctxcatcodes except for minor changes
> \startcatcodetable \urlcatcodes
>    \catcode`\^^I = 10
>    \catcode`\^^M =  5
>    \catcode`\^^L =  5
>    \catcode`\    = 10
>    \catcode`\^^Z =  9
>    \catcode`\\   =  0
>    \catcode`\{   =  1
>    \catcode`\}   =  2
>    \catcode`\$   =  3
>    \catcode`\&   =  4
>    \catcode`\#   =  6
>    \catcode`\^   =  7
>    \catcode`\_   =  8
>    \catcode`\~   = 13
>    \catcode`\|   = 13
>    \catcode`\%   = \@@other
>    \catcode`\*   = \@@comment % comment this out if you don’t need line comments
> \stopcatcodetable
> 
> \protect
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \bgroup
>  TEST
>  \setcatcodetable \urlcatcodes
>  \hyphenatedurl{www.test%it.com}
>  * this should be treated as comment
>  \footnote{
>    \hyphenatedurl{www.test%it.com}
>  }
>  Math mode: $(x)(y)\,(Fx\,.\,x=y\,.\supset\,Fy)$
>  TEST
> \egroup
> 
> \stoptext
> 
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Re: hyphenated url

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 26.10.2010 um 00:49 schrieb Philipp Gesang:

> On 2010-10-25 <17:00:39>, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Oct 2010, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 25.10.2010 um 19:30 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, 25 Oct 2010, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> the "%" is a frequently used character in URL.
>>>>> But \hyphenatedurl{} can deal with it ...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does someone has a fix?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> \starttext
>>>>> text\footnote{test \hyphenatedurl{www.test%it.com} test.} text.
>>>>> \stoptext
>>>> 
>>>> An extreme solution:
>>>> 
>>>> \startcatcodetable \txtcatcodes
>>>>  \catcode`\^^I = 10
>>>>  \catcode`\^^M =  5
>>>>  \catcode`\^^L =  5
>>>>  \catcode`\    = 10
>>>>  \catcode`\^^Z =  9
>>>>  \catcode`\\   =  0
>>>>  \catcode`\{   =  1
>>>>  \catcode`\}   =  2
>>>> %   \catcode`\%   = 14
>>>> \stopcatcodetable
>>>> \starttext
>>>> \asciimode
>>>> text\footnote{test \hyphenatedurl{www.test%it.com} test.} text.
>>>> \stoptext
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As I don't have any experience with "\asciimode" "I am not sure if I can map this entirely on a complex book project...
>> 
>> In addition to usual asciimode, I changed the definition so that %
>> does not have its usual meaning. So, % is no longer a comment; it
>> just typesets percentage sign. You can get a comment using
>> 
>> \starthiding ... \stophiding.
>> 
>>> Any known side-effects?
>> 
>> * You need to use \math{...} to go into math mode. $ will just give
>> a dollar.
>> 
>> * You need \startformula ... \stopformula to go into display math.
>> $$...$$ will just print dollars.
>> 
>> * _ in text mode will produce an underscore instead of an error. _
>> in math mode will work fine. The same for ^.
>> 
>> * You need
>> 
>> \starttex(something) (I don't remember on the top of my head)
>> \def\whatever#1{...}
>> \stoptex(something)
>> 
>> to change the definition of a macro.
>> 
>> I have never really tested it on a large document. Maybe you can
>> just add this and see if everything compiles.
> 
> Hi Aditya, Steffen and others,
> 
> I was toying around with catcode tables too. Shouldn’t it suffice
> to simply change % to ‘other’? This way you can keep the dollar
> style math.
> 
> Philipp
> 
> ···8<····························································
> 
> \setupinteraction[state=start]
> 
> \unprotect
> \newcatcodetable \urlcatcodes % ordinary \ctxcatcodes except for minor changes
> \startcatcodetable \urlcatcodes
>    \catcode`\^^I = 10
>    \catcode`\^^M =  5
>    \catcode`\^^L =  5
>    \catcode`\    = 10
>    \catcode`\^^Z =  9
>    \catcode`\\   =  0
>    \catcode`\{   =  1
>    \catcode`\}   =  2
>    \catcode`\$   =  3
>    \catcode`\&   =  4
>    \catcode`\#   =  6
>    \catcode`\^   =  7
>    \catcode`\_   =  8
>    \catcode`\~   = 13
>    \catcode`\|   = 13
>    \catcode`\%   = \@@other
>    \catcode`\*   = \@@comment % comment this out if you don’t need line comments
> \stopcatcodetable
> 
> \protect
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \bgroup
>  TEST
>  \setcatcodetable \urlcatcodes
>  \hyphenatedurl{www.test%it.com}
>  * this should be treated as comment
>  \footnote{
>    \hyphenatedurl{www.test%it.com}
>  }
>  Math mode: $(x)(y)\,(Fx\,.\,x=y\,.\supset\,Fy)$
>  TEST
> \egroup
> 
> \stoptext
> 
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Hi Hans and other catcode wizards,

isn't there a way to make this kind of catcode trickery only be available *inside* \hyphenatedurl{} environment?

Steffen
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Re: hyphenated url

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 27.10.2010 um 12:35 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:

> Hi Hans and other catcode wizards,
> 
> isn't there a way to make this kind of catcode trickery only be available *inside* \hyphenatedurl{} environment?

It’s useless in this case because the „%“ is read from the footnote before \hyphenatedurl can see it and any local catcode changes have therefore no effect.

Wolfgang

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Re: hyphenated url

[Peter Münster]

On Wed, Oct 27 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> 
> > isn't there a way to make this kind of catcode trickery only be available
> > *inside* \hyphenatedurl{} environment?
> 
> It’s useless in this case because the „%“ is read from the footnote before
> \hyphenatedurl can see it and any local catcode changes have therefore no
> effect.

He wants perhaps:

\starthyphenatedurl
www.%.com
\stophyphenatedurl

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Re: hyphenated url

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 27.10.2010 um 16:56 schrieb Peter Münster:

> On Wed, Oct 27 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>> 
>>> isn't there a way to make this kind of catcode trickery only be available
>>> *inside* \hyphenatedurl{} environment?
>> 
>> It’s useless in this case because the „%“ is read from the footnote before
>> \hyphenatedurl can see it and any local catcode changes have therefore no
>> effect.
> 
> He wants perhaps:
> 
> \starthyphenatedurl
> www.%.com
> \stophyphenatedurl


I just want to typeset ...

test\footnote{test \hyphenatedurl{http://www.kommers.se/upload/Analysarkiv/In%20English/Analyses/Woolcock%20paper%20on%20impact%20of%20Lisbontreaty%20on%20tradepolicy.pdf} text.} text.

... without killing all these comment characters "%" used in my project!

Steffen
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Re: hyphenated url

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 27.10.2010 um 16:56 schrieb Peter Münster:

> On Wed, Oct 27 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>> 
>>> isn't there a way to make this kind of catcode trickery only be available
>>> *inside* \hyphenatedurl{} environment?
>> 
>> It’s useless in this case because the „%“ is read from the footnote before
>> \hyphenatedurl can see it and any local catcode changes have therefore no
>> effect.
> 
> He wants perhaps:
> 
> \starthyphenatedurl
> www.%.com
> \stophyphenatedurl

No, he wants

\footnote{...\hyphenatedurl{...%...}...}

and before \hyphenatedurl can take a look at the content and change the % to a normal character the footnote already interpreted it as a comment and it’s gone. What you can do is to redefine \footnote to read it’s content with a different catcode regime or you use Adityas modified \asciicode command which makes % a printable character but you loose then comments (and \starthiding/\stophiding does not count as comment).

Wolfgang

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Re: hyphenated url

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Oct 27, 2010, at 5:59 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> and before \hyphenatedurl can take a look at the content and change the % to a normal character the footnote already interpreted it as a comment and it’s gone. 

So even \scantokens wouldn't work here? 

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Re: hyphenated url

[Peter Münster]

On Wed, Oct 27 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> 
> > He wants perhaps:
> > 
> > \starthyphenatedurl
> > www.%.com
> > \stophyphenatedurl
> 
> No, he wants
> 
> \footnote{...\hyphenatedurl{...%...}...}

Yes. But if I understand TeX right, then there will be only 2 possibilities:

1.)
\footnote{bla
\starthyphenatedurl
www.%.com
\stophyphenatedurl
bla bla}

or

2.)
\ChangeCatcodeOfPercent
\footnote{...\hyphenatedurl{...%...}...}
\RestoreCatcodeOfPercent

Is this right?

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Re: hyphenated url

[Peter Münster]

On Wed, Oct 27 2010, Peter Münster wrote:

> Yes. But if I understand TeX right, then there will be only 2 possibilities:
> 
> 1.)
> \footnote{bla
> \starthyphenatedurl
> www.%.com
> \stophyphenatedurl
> bla bla}

Ok, I must be wrong, because this does not work neither:

\starttext
bla
\footnote{
  bla
  \starttyping
    bla%bla
  \stoptyping
  bla
}
\stoptext

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Re: hyphenated url

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On Wed, 27 Oct 2010, Peter Münster wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 27 2010, Peter Münster wrote:
>
>> Yes. But if I understand TeX right, then there will be only 2 possibilities:
>>
>> 1.)
>> \footnote{bla
>> \starthyphenatedurl
>> www.%.com
>> \stophyphenatedurl
>> bla bla}
>
> Ok, I must be wrong, because this does not work neither:
>
> \starttext
> bla
> \footnote{
>  bla
>  \starttyping
>    bla%bla
>  \stoptyping
>  bla
> }
> \stoptext

That has to do with the definition of typing: 
http://tracker.luatex.org/view.php?id=505

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Re: hyphenated url

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On Wed, Oct 27 2010, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

> That has to do with the definition of typing:
> http://tracker.luatex.org/view.php?id=505

Ah, that means, that buffers can solve the problem:

\starttext
\startbuffer
  \starttyping
    bla%bla
  \stoptyping
\stopbuffer
bla\footnote{
  bla
  \getbuffer
  bla
}

\startbuffer
  bla%bla
\stopbuffer
bla\footnote{
  bla
  \typebuffer
  bla
}

\startbuffer
\type{bla%bla}
\stopbuffer
bla\footnote{bla\getbuffer bla}
\stoptext

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Re: hyphenated url

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi,

I tried an other approach: \useURL

But here the letterpercent trick doesn't work at all ... ie. there is no clickable link at all anymore!


\setupinteraction
   [state=start]

\showframe

\starttext

\useURL[aurl]       [http://www.kommers.se/upload/Analysarkiv/In\letterpercent English/Analyses/Woolcock\letterpercent paper\letterpercent on\letterpercent impact\letterpercent of\letterpercent Lisbontreaty\letterpercent on\letterpercent tradepolicy.pdf] [] [http://www.kommers.se/upload/Analysarkiv/In\letterpercent English/Analyses/Woolcock\letterpercent paper\letterpercent on\letterpercent impact\letterpercent of\letterpercent Lisbontreaty\letterpercent on\letterpercent tradepolicy.pdf] 

test \from[aurl] text
\stoptext




Steffen






Am 25.10.2010 um 15:12 schrieb Philipp Gesang:

> On 2010-10-25 <12:45:17>, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>> 
>> Am 25.10.2010 um 12:26 schrieb Philipp Gesang:
>>> \unexpanded\gdef\hyphenatedurl
>>> 
>>> Should work in footnotes. Regards, Philipp
>> 
>> 
>> No, it doesn't (see below).
>> Do you have an other idea?
> 
> Right; it works in footnotes but doesn’t accomplish what you
> want. Sorry, I tried a lot but ‘\letterpercent’ is the only
> way it works for me.
> 
> Concerning the urlencoding I referred to browsers automatically
> converting raw urls, like for instance
> 
>  http://www.google.com/search?q=ähre
> 
> , which is encoded as
> 
>  http://www.google.com/search?q=%C3%A4hre
> 
> by my browser. As long as your urls mainly consist of unicode
> strings you might not need the actual (ascii) percent sign.  In
> this case you could be fine simply by converting strings like
> ‘%C3%A4hre’ to ‘Ähre’, rendering urls percent-less, and rely on
> the browsers to re-encode them on the fly. Might be a bit far
> fetched, though.
> 
> Philipp
> 
> 
>> 
>> Thanks, Steffen
>> (ConTeXt  ver: 2010.10.21)
>> 
>> 
>> Runaway argument?
>> {test \hyphenatedurl {www.test\par \stoptext \par 
>> ! File ended while scanning use of \@@notemakedescription.
>> 
>> system          > error on line 0 in file : File ended while scanning use of \@@notemakedescription ...
>> 
>> 
>> \let\normalhyphenatedurl\hyphenatedurl
>> 
>> \bgroup
>> 
>> \catcode`\%=11
>> 
>> \unexpanded\gdef\hyphenatedurl
>> {\bgroup
>>  \catcode`\%=11
>>  \expandafter\egroup
>>  \normalhyphenatedurl}
>> 
>> \egroup
>> 
>> \setupinteraction
>>   [state=start]
>> 
>> \starttext
>> 
>> text\footnote{test \hyphenatedurl{www.test%it.com} test.} text.
>> 
>> \stoptext
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: hyphenated url

[Peter Münster]

On Mon, Oct 25 2010, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> 
> http://www.cirp.ru/conferences/new%20neighborhood%20policy/publications/frellesen%20paper.doc
> 
> There is no way to typeset this in ConTeXt MkIV???

No problem here:

\setupinteraction[state=start]
\starttext
No hexa-code after percent, so Acroread transforms \% to
\%25\footnote{\hyphenatedurl{www.test.com/\letterpercent/test}}

ok\footnote{\hyphenatedurl{www.test.com/\letterpercent24/test}}

ok\footnote{\hyphenatedurl{http://www.cirp.ru/conferences/new\letterpercent
    20neighborhood\letterpercent20policy/publications/frellesen\letterpercent
    20paper.doc}}

Does not work, perhaps bug in
\ConTeXt\footnote{\hyphenatedurl{http://www.cirp.ru/conferences/new
    neighborhood policy/publications/frellesen paper.doc}}
\stoptext

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Re: hyphenated url

[Philipp Gesang]

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On 2010-10-27 <22:28:56>, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I tried an other approach: \useURL
> 
> But here the letterpercent trick doesn't work at all ... ie.
> there is no clickable link at all anymore!

Hi Steffen,

if you consider an environment-style version of ‘\useURL’
appropriate, you could hack your way through like this:

···8<····························································

\setupinteraction[state=start]

\unprotect
\newcatcodetable \urlcatcodes
\startcatcodetable \urlcatcodes
    \catcode`\^^I = 10
    \catcode`\^^M =  5
    \catcode`\^^L =  5
    \catcode`\    = 10
    \catcode`\^^Z =  9
    \catcode`\\   =  0
    \catcode`\{   =  1
    \catcode`\}   =  2
    \catcode`\$   = \@@other
    \catcode`\&   = \@@other
    \catcode`\#   = \@@other
    \catcode`\^   = \@@other
    \catcode`\_   = \@@other
    \catcode`\~   = \@@other
    \catcode`\|   = \@@other
    \catcode`\%   = \@@other
    \catcode`\*   = \@@other
\stopcatcodetable

\startluacode
function structures.references.urls.get(name,method,space)
    local u = structures.references.urls.data[name]
    if u then 
        local url, file = u[1], u[2] 
        if file and file ~= "" then 
            context("%s/%s",url,file)
        else 
            context.pushcatcodes("vrb")
            context(url)
            context.popcatcodes()
        end  
    end  
end

\stopluacode

\def\startuseURL{%
  \bgroup%
  \catcodetable \urlcatcodes
  \dodoubleempty\dostartuseURL%
}

\let\stopuseURL\relax

\def\dostartuseURL[#1][#2]#3\stopuseURL{
  \egroup
  \ctxlua{structures.references.urls.define("#1",string.strip(\!!bs\detokenize{#3}\!!es),"",\!!bs\detokenize{#2}\!!es)}
}

% Usage example here:

\startuseURL[anotherurl][urldescription]
http://test%it.example.com
\stopuseURL

\starttext

\from[anotherurl]\par
\url[anotherurl]\par

Test.\footnote{\url[anotherurl]}

\stoptext

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This deviates from standard ‘\useURL’ in the order of parameters:

  \startuseURL[#1][#2]
  #3
  \stopuseURL

where #1 is the id, #2 is the display text and #3 the url itself.
This eliminates the need to resort to ‘\letterpercent’ as well
and works in footnotes.

Philipp


> 
> 
> \setupinteraction
>    [state=start]
> 
> \showframe
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \useURL[aurl]       [http://www.kommers.se/upload/Analysarkiv/In\letterpercent English/Analyses/Woolcock\letterpercent paper\letterpercent on\letterpercent impact\letterpercent of\letterpercent Lisbontreaty\letterpercent on\letterpercent tradepolicy.pdf] [] [http://www.kommers.se/upload/Analysarkiv/In\letterpercent English/Analyses/Woolcock\letterpercent paper\letterpercent on\letterpercent impact\letterpercent of\letterpercent Lisbontreaty\letterpercent on\letterpercent tradepolicy.pdf] 
> 
> test \from[aurl] text
> \stoptext
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Steffen
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Am 25.10.2010 um 15:12 schrieb Philipp Gesang:
> 
> > On 2010-10-25 <12:45:17>, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> >> 
> >> Am 25.10.2010 um 12:26 schrieb Philipp Gesang:
> >>> \unexpanded\gdef\hyphenatedurl
> >>> 
> >>> Should work in footnotes. Regards, Philipp
> >> 
> >> 
> >> No, it doesn't (see below).
> >> Do you have an other idea?
> > 
> > Right; it works in footnotes but doesn’t accomplish what you
> > want. Sorry, I tried a lot but ‘\letterpercent’ is the only
> > way it works for me.
> > 
> > Concerning the urlencoding I referred to browsers automatically
> > converting raw urls, like for instance
> > 
> >  http://www.google.com/search?q=ähre
> > 
> > , which is encoded as
> > 
> >  http://www.google.com/search?q=%C3%A4hre
> > 
> > by my browser. As long as your urls mainly consist of unicode
> > strings you might not need the actual (ascii) percent sign.  In
> > this case you could be fine simply by converting strings like
> > ‘%C3%A4hre’ to ‘Ähre’, rendering urls percent-less, and rely on
> > the browsers to re-encode them on the fly. Might be a bit far
> > fetched, though.
> > 
> > Philipp
> > 
> > 
> >> 
> >> Thanks, Steffen
> >> (ConTeXt  ver: 2010.10.21)
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Runaway argument?
> >> {test \hyphenatedurl {www.test\par \stoptext \par 
> >> ! File ended while scanning use of \@@notemakedescription.
> >> 
> >> system          > error on line 0 in file : File ended while scanning use of \@@notemakedescription ...
> >> 
> >> 
> >> \let\normalhyphenatedurl\hyphenatedurl
> >> 
> >> \bgroup
> >> 
> >> \catcode`\%=11
> >> 
> >> \unexpanded\gdef\hyphenatedurl
> >> {\bgroup
> >>  \catcode`\%=11
> >>  \expandafter\egroup
> >>  \normalhyphenatedurl}
> >> 
> >> \egroup
> >> 
> >> \setupinteraction
> >>   [state=start]
> >> 
> >> \starttext
> >> 
> >> text\footnote{test \hyphenatedurl{www.test%it.com} test.} text.
> >> 
> >> \stoptext
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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Re: hyphenated url

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 28.10.2010 um 00:05 schrieb Philipp Gesang:

> % Usage example here:
> 
> \startuseURL[anotherurl][urldescription]
> http://test%it.example.com
> \stopuseURL
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \from[anotherurl]\par
> \url[anotherurl]\par
> 
> Test.\footnote{\url[anotherurl]}
> 
> \stoptext



Hi Philipp,

this doesn't work ... the address gets corrupt!

Just run it, open the PDF in Acrobat and test the link:

"Acrobat is attempting to connect to 
http://test%25it.example.com"


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Re: hyphenated url

[Taco Hoekwater]

On 10/27/2010 02:43 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
> Am 27.10.2010 um 12:35 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>
>> Hi Hans and other catcode wizards,
>>
>> isn't there a way to make this kind of catcode trickery only be available *inside* \hyphenatedurl{} environment?
>
> It’s useless in this case because the „%“ is read from the footnote before \hyphenatedurl can see it and any local catcode changes have therefore no effect.

This works:

\startbuffer [comurl] \catcode`\%=12
\hyphenatedurl{http://www.kommers.se/upload/Analysarkiv/In%20English/Analyses/Woolcock%20paper%20on%20impact%20of%20Lisbontreaty%20on%20tradepolicy.pdf}
\stopbuffer

\setupinteraction
    [state=start]

\starttext

test\footnote{test \getbuffer[comurl] text.} text.

\stoptext
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Re: hyphenated url

[Peter Münster]

On Thu, Oct 28 2010, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> 
> > \startuseURL[anotherurl][urldescription]
> > http://test%it.example.com
> > \stopuseURL
> 
> this doesn't work ... the address gets corrupt!
> 
> Just run it, open the PDF in Acrobat and test the link:
> 
> "Acrobat is attempting to connect to 
> http://test%25it.example.com"

This is normal behaviour of Acrobat, see also:
http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20101027.213001.ba65dced.en.html

"it" is not hexadecimal.

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Re: hyphenated url

[Philipp Gesang]

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On 2010-10-28 <08:46:55>, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> 
> Am 28.10.2010 um 00:05 schrieb Philipp Gesang:
> 
> > % Usage example here:
> > 
> > \startuseURL[anotherurl][urldescription]
> > http://test%it.example.com
> > \stopuseURL
> > 
> > \starttext
> > 
> > \from[anotherurl]\par
> > \url[anotherurl]\par
> > 
> > Test.\footnote{\url[anotherurl]}
> > 
> > \stoptext
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Philipp,
> 
> this doesn't work ... the address gets corrupt!
> 
> Just run it, open the PDF in Acrobat and test the link:
> 
> "Acrobat is attempting to connect to 
> http://test%25it.example.com"

This can’t get corrupted any more because it’s illegal. From
RFC 1738:

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hostname       = *[ domainlabel "." ] toplabel
domainlabel    = alphadigit | alphadigit *[ alphadigit | "-" ] alphadigit

···8<····························································

No percent signs allowed in the hostname. Put your test percent
sign somewhere else and it will work (don’t know about acrobat,
but okular cooperates):

  http://testit.example.com/%25
  http://www.google.com/search?q=L%C3%A4rmbel%C3%A4stigung

Hth, Philipp


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Re: hyphenated url

[Hans Hagen]

On 27-10-2010 7:08, Peter Münster wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 27 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>>
>>> He wants perhaps:
>>>
>>> \starthyphenatedurl
>>> www.%.com
>>> \stophyphenatedurl
>>
>> No, he wants
>>
>> \footnote{...\hyphenatedurl{...%...}...}
>
> Yes. But if I understand TeX right, then there will be only 2 possibilities:
>
> 1.)
> \footnote{bla
> \starthyphenatedurl
> www.%.com
> \stophyphenatedurl
> bla bla}



\asciimode \catcode`\%   = \othercatcode

\footnote{bla \hyphenatedurl{www.%.com} bla bla}

\stoptext

If we can agree that asciimode also makes % a characters I can add that 
preset. In that case one should mark comments differently, although when 
one wants % to be % comments are not in the picture anyway.

Hans


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Re: hyphenated url

[Peter Münster]

On Thu, Oct 28 2010, Hans Hagen wrote:

> If we can agree that asciimode also makes % a characters I can add
> that preset.

I agree. It's more consistent.
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Re: hyphenated url

[Khaled Hosny]

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:53:52AM +0200, Peter Münster wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 28 2010, Hans Hagen wrote:
> 
> > If we can agree that asciimode also makes % a characters I can add
> > that preset.
> 
> I agree. It's more consistent.

Me too :) We just need some other way to put inline comments.

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Re: hyphenated url

[Peter Münster]

On Thu, Oct 28 2010, Khaled Hosny wrote:

> Me too :) We just need some other way to put inline comments.

I don't know, if it's possible, but \% could be nice.
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Re: hyphenated url (SOLVED)

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 28.10.2010 um 08:53 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:

> This works:
> 
> \startbuffer [comurl] \catcode`\%=12
> \hyphenatedurl{...



If I didn't overlook something, then this must be finally the solution:


\startbuffer [comurl] \catcode`\%=12
\useURL[test][http://www.kommers.se/upload/Analysarkiv/In%20English/Analyses/Woolcock%20paper%20on%20impact%20of%20Lisbontreaty%20on%20tradepolicy.pdf][]
[http://www.kommers.se/upload/Analysarkiv/In%20English/\crlf Analyses/Woolcock%20paper%20on%20impact%20of%20Lisb\crlf ontreaty%20on%20tradepolicy.pdf]\from[test]
\stopbuffer 

\setupinteraction
  [state=start]

\starttext

test {\getbuffer[comurl]} text.% HEY!

test
\startfootnote
test \getbuffer[comurl]\ text.% HEY!
\stopfootnote{} text.% HEY!

\stoptext



Here, the "%" character can be used for URL, both in bodytext and footnote, but works as "comment", too.
And we can at the same time manually break long URLs that are too weird for hyphenation by \hyphenatedurl.

Thank you Taco, Peter, Philipp and Hans for your efforts ...
and eventually getting all the pieces for this solution together!!!

Steffen
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Re: hyphenated url

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 28.10.2010 um 08:53 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:

> On 10/27/2010 02:43 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>> 
>> Am 27.10.2010 um 12:35 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>> 
>>> Hi Hans and other catcode wizards,
>>> 
>>> isn't there a way to make this kind of catcode trickery only be available *inside* \hyphenatedurl{} environment?
>> 
>> It’s useless in this case because the „%“ is read from the footnote before \hyphenatedurl can see it and any local catcode changes have therefore no effect.
> 
> This works:
> 
> \startbuffer [comurl] \catcode`\%=12
> \hyphenatedurl{http://www.kommers.se/upload/Analysarkiv/In%20English/Analyses/Woolcock%20paper%20on%20impact%20of%20Lisbontreaty%20on%20tradepolicy.pdf}
> \stopbuffer
> 
> \setupinteraction
>   [state=start]
> 
> \starttext
> 
> test\footnote{test \getbuffer[comurl] text.} text.
> 
> \stoptext

Sure but \getbuffer isn’t expanded when the footnote text is read by tex, when you look at the tuc file you can see the entry for the footnote is:

  titledata={
   title="test \\getbuffer [comurl] text.",
  },

Wolfgang

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Re: hyphenated url

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 28.10.2010 um 13:02 schrieb Khaled Hosny:

> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:53:52AM +0200, Peter Münster wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 28 2010, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> 
>>> If we can agree that asciimode also makes % a characters I can add
>>> that preset.
>> 
>> I agree. It's more consistent.
> 
> Me too :) We just need some other way to put inline comments.

\bgroup \obeylines

\gdef\hide%
  {\begingroup%
   \obeylines%
   \dohide}

\gdef\dohide#1
  {\endgroup}

\egroup

\starttext

Auf% ligature
lage

Auf\hide ligature
lage

\stoptext

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Re: hyphenated url

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Mon, 25 Oct 2010, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

> Hi,
>
> the "%" is a frequently used character in URL.
> But \hyphenatedurl{} can deal with it ...
>
> Does someone has a fix?
>
>
> \starttext
> text\footnote{test \hyphenatedurl{www.test%it.com} test.} text.
> \stoptext

This is more a proof of concept so I did not take care of the optional 
argument of \footnote.

\newcatcodetable \mytxtcatcodes
\startcatcodetable \mytxtcatcodes
     \catcode`\^^I = 10
     \catcode`\^^M =  5
     \catcode`\^^L =  5
     \catcode`\    = 10
     \catcode`\^^Z =  9
     \catcode`\\   =  0
     \catcode`\{   =  1
     \catcode`\}   =  2
\stopcatcodetable

\def\dosingleasciigroup#1%
   {\pushcatcodetable
    \setcatcodetable \mytxtcatcodes
    \def\next##1{#1{##1}\popcatcodetable}%
    \next}

\def\setasciicommand#1%
   {\savenormalmeaning{#1}%
    \def#1{\dosingleasciigroup{\csname normal\strippedcsname#1\endcsname}}}

\setasciicommand\footnote
\setasciicommand\hyphenatedurl

\starttext
\hyphenatedurl{http://www.google.com/some%20thing}
test \footnote{A footnote with a \bold{url} 
\hyphenatedurl{http://www.google.com/some%20thing}}

\stoptext


Aditya
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Re: hyphenated url

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 31.10.2010 um 07:06 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:

> On Mon, 25 Oct 2010, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> the "%" is a frequently used character in URL.
>> But \hyphenatedurl{} can deal with it ...
>> 
>> Does someone has a fix?
>> 
>> 
>> \starttext
>> text\footnote{test \hyphenatedurl{www.test%it.com} test.} text.
>> \stoptext
> 
> This is more a proof of concept so I did not take care of the optional argument of \footnote.
> 
> \newcatcodetable \mytxtcatcodes
> \startcatcodetable \mytxtcatcodes
>   \catcode`\^^I = 10
>   \catcode`\^^M =  5
>   \catcode`\^^L =  5
>   \catcode`\    = 10
>   \catcode`\^^Z =  9
>   \catcode`\\   =  0
>   \catcode`\{   =  1
>   \catcode`\}   =  2
> \stopcatcodetable
> 
> \def\dosingleasciigroup#1%
> {\pushcatcodetable
>  \setcatcodetable \mytxtcatcodes
>  \def\next##1{#1{##1}\popcatcodetable}%
>  \next}
> 
> \def\setasciicommand#1%
> {\savenormalmeaning{#1}%
>  \def#1{\dosingleasciigroup{\csname normal\strippedcsname#1\endcsname}}}
> 
> \setasciicommand\footnote
> \setasciicommand\hyphenatedurl
> 
> \starttext
> \hyphenatedurl{http://www.google.com/some%20thing}
> test \footnote{A footnote with a \bold{url} \hyphenatedurl{http://www.google.com/some%20thing}}
> 
> \stoptext


A very nice and clean solution!

Is it also possible to adapt it to useURL?

\setasciicommand\useURL

test \useURL[one][http://www.google.com/some%20thing][][http://www.google.com/some%20thing] text


Thanks a lot,
Steffen
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Re: hyphenated url

[Aditya Mahajan]

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On Sun, 31 Oct 2010, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

>
> Am 31.10.2010 um 07:06 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:
>
>> On Mon, 25 Oct 2010, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> the "%" is a frequently used character in URL.
>>> But \hyphenatedurl{} can deal with it ...
>>>
>>> Does someone has a fix?
>>>
>>>
>>> \starttext
>>> text\footnote{test \hyphenatedurl{www.test%it.com} test.} text.
>>> \stoptext
>>
>> This is more a proof of concept so I did not take care of the optional argument of \footnote.
>>
> A very nice and clean solution!
>
> Is it also possible to adapt it to useURL?
>
> \setasciicommand\useURL
>
> test \useURL[one][http://www.google.com/some%20thing][][http://www.google.com/some%20thing] text

It starts getting more confusing...the control passes from tex to luatex 
and then back to tex and at the last step ctxcatcodes are restored. I just bypassed the 
whole last leg. See the attached file for a working example.

A proper fix is much more involved.

Aditya

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\newcatcodetable \mytxtcatcodes
\startcatcodetable \mytxtcatcodes
    \catcode`\^^I = 10
    \catcode`\^^M =  5
    \catcode`\^^L =  5
    \catcode`\    = 10
    \catcode`\^^Z =  9
    \catcode`\\   =  0
    \catcode`\{   =  1
    \catcode`\}   =  2
\stopcatcodetable

\def\dosingleasciigroup#1%
  {\pushcatcodetable
   \setcatcodetable \mytxtcatcodes
   \def\next##1{#1{##1}\popcatcodetable}%
   \next}

\def\dosingleasciiargument#1%
  {\pushcatcodetable
   \setcatcodetable \mytxtcatcodes
   \def\next[##1]{#1[##1]\popcatcodetable}%
   \dosingleargument\next}

\def\doquadrupleasciiargument#1%
  {\pushcatcodetable
   \setcatcodetable \mytxtcatcodes
   \def\next[##1][##2][##3][##4]{#1[##1][##2][##3][##4]\popcatcodetable}%
   \doquadrupleargument\next}
   
\def\setasciicommand#1#2%arguments cs
  {\savenormalmeaning{#2}%
   \def#2{#1{\csname normal\strippedcsname#2\endcsname}}}

\setasciicommand\dosingleasciigroup\footnote
\setasciicommand\dosingleasciigroup\hyphenatedurl

% This does not work... possible because the context(...) function is using 
% ctxcatcodes rather than current catcodes.

%\setasciicommand\dosingleasciigroup\dofromurldescription

\setasciicommand\doquadrupleasciiargument\useURL
% Not needed
%\setasciicommand\dosingleasciiargument\from

\startluacode
local references      = structures.references
references.urls      = references.urls      or { }
references.urls.data = references.urls.data or { }

function references.from(name)
    local u = references.urls.data[name]
    if u then
        local url, file, description = u[1], u[2], u[3]
        if description ~= "" then
            -- context.dofromurldescription(description)
            -- AM: Changed this
            tex.sprint(tex.mytxtcatcodes, description)
            -- ok
        elseif file and file ~= "" then
            context.dofromurlliteral(url .. "/" .. file)
        else
            context.dofromurlliteral(url)
        end
    else
        local f = files[name]
        if f then
            local description, file = f[1], f[2]
            if description ~= "" then
                context.dofromfiledescription(description)
            else
                context.dofromfileliteral(file)
            end
        end
    end
end

\stopluacode

\starttext
\hyphenatedurl{http://www.google.com/some%20thing}
test \footnote{A footnote with a \bold{url} \hyphenatedurl{http://www.google.com/some%20thing}}

\useURL[one][http://www.google.com/some%20thing][][http://www.google.com/some%20thing]
\from[one]

\stoptext
   

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