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From: Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl>
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>,
	Rik Kabel <context@rik.users.panix.com>
Subject: Re: future versions
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 18:06:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <12f923ff-aaf8-ad77-66b2-4890540d2f71@xs4all.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <155fd421-12c7-4d36-bb27-ff72cb11eada@rik.users.panix.com>

On 7/25/2018 3:50 PM, Rik Kabel wrote:
> On 7/25/2018 04:19, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
>> Am 2018-07-25 um 03:29 schrieb Rik Kabel <context@rik.users.panix.com>:
>>
>>> I would ask for more stylistic or semantic tagging to be added to the 
>>> XML export. A good example is that of bibliographies, where font 
>>> styles carry significant semantic meaning (depending on the standard 
>>> used: italic for book titles, ibold or talic for volume and issue 
>>> numbers, and so on.) The xml output reflects none of this.
>>>
>>> I do not know whether one would want stylistic tagging (italic, bold, 
>>> ...) or semantic (booktitle, issue number). In either case, they 
>>> could be implemented as highlights or tagged elements, both of which 
>>> are currently carried through, and the user could then apply the 
>>> appropriate styling with css or other transformation mechanisms.
>> Generally, you get stylistic tagging by using \definehighlight.
>> I replaced \em and \bf by \emph{} and \strong{} in my projects.
>>
>> Didn’t try real bibliographies or xml input yet, but I guess you can 
>> change the setup to use those.
>>
> 
> \definehighlight does not (by default) nest. You can handle this to some 
> degree in css or xslt for XML exports, but it is not an acceptable 
> replacement for font switches with pdf output. And since the syntax for 
> highlights ( \highlight{text} ) differs from that for font switches ( 
> {\highlight text} ), it is not simply a matter of different environments 
> for each output format, although perhaps \groupedcommand might help (I 
> have not tried this).
font switches using 'style' are bound to a structural element

> But that is in some ways beside the point. A user should not have to 
> find and modify every instance in the source where such setups occur. 
> When exports or tagging are enabled, it would be good if this were 
> automatically done.
you can't expect reliable structure from non-structured input so if you 
want an export that is ok, the penalty is proper structuring

Hans

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-25 16:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-24 18:43 Hans Hagen
2018-07-24 19:07 ` Hans van der Meer
2018-07-24 20:35   ` Pablo Rodriguez
2018-07-24 20:30 ` Pablo Rodriguez
2018-07-24 21:02 ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
2018-07-24 23:21   ` Hans Hagen
2018-08-21  8:00     ` future versions - synctex Procházka Lukáš Ing.
2018-08-21  8:33       ` Hans Hagen
2018-08-21 13:04         ` Aditya Mahajan
2018-08-21 13:19           ` Hans Hagen
2018-08-21 14:46             ` Aditya Mahajan
2018-08-21 15:17               ` Hans Hagen
2018-07-25  1:29 ` future versions Rik Kabel
2018-07-25  8:19   ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2018-07-25 13:50     ` Rik Kabel
2018-07-25 16:06       ` Hans Hagen [this message]
2018-07-25 16:18       ` Alan Braslau
2018-07-25 17:01         ` Hans Hagen
2018-07-25 11:36   ` Hans Hagen
2018-07-25  7:45 ` Robert Zydenbos
2018-07-25 10:03   ` Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica
2018-07-25 12:50     ` Hans Hagen
2018-07-25 13:12       ` Weber, Matthias
2018-07-25 17:50         ` Hans Hagen
2018-07-25 20:22           ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2018-07-25 11:38   ` Hans Hagen

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