From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/13019 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Giuseppe Bilotta Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re[2]: Re: CJK support in ConTeXt Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 00:50:50 +0200 Sender: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Message-ID: <13149470635.20030828005050@iol.it> References: <3F4CE4E1.FAEC9FB0@lamar.colostate.edu> <000b01c36cd9$7afa4170$0a01a8c0@TIMBO> Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1062025060 19534 80.91.224.253 (27 Aug 2003 22:57:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 22:57:40 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Thu Aug 28 00:57:38 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from ref.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.13] helo=ref.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19s9EQ-0000kF-00 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 00:57:38 +0200 Original-Received: from ref.ntg.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9102B10B65; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 00:57:32 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from smtp1.libero.it (smtp1.libero.it [193.70.192.51]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE4210B04 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 00:51:39 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from OBLOMOV (151.29.128.121) by smtp1.libero.it (7.0.019) id 3F40A321001AC351 for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 00:52:01 +0200 X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.63 Beta/11) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Original-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl In-Reply-To: <000b01c36cd9$7afa4170$0a01a8c0@TIMBO> Errors-To: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:13019 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:13019 Wednesday, August 27, 2003 Tim 't Hart wrote: > I agree that there should be another list for e-Omega (Aleph) where we can > discuss implementing multilingual code for ConTeXt, because I think it's a > bit off-topic for the regular ConTeXt list. > But on the other hand, I also support Hong Feng when he wants to create a > mailing list just for the developers of the CJK package. Or maybe just a > temporary list, just for organizational reasons. > Also a reason is that it's not already sure if e-Omega is the best option > for this (although after using Giuseppe's latest e-Omega version, I think it > is the best option) and that the creation of the CJK module will need > discussions that have nothing to do with e-Omega, like implementing CJK > chapter headings, East Asian line breaking and numbering systems. Although > some of these are ConTeXt related problems, it's a bit off-topic for the > general ConTeXt list, but also off-topic for the e-Omega list. (Of course, > when the developers of the CJK module decide to use e-Omega to implement > their outcome of the discussions, they can use the e-Omega list) > Anyway, these are my thoughts about it, and it's getting past my bedtime. > I'm sure that someone can persuade me to think otherwise! :-) While I agree that the CJK module is specialized, I'm not sure the discussion should necessarily take place somewhere else. After all, it's most definitely a ConTeXt-specific thing. Maybe you should go the same route as the other "external" modules? I don't know, where do the other ConTeXt module get discussed? Does DocbookInConTeXt have its own mailing list? Anyway, I'm glad to hear that the latest e-Omega is working for you too :) these news are the best ones me and the others of the e-Omega task force can receive :) But, if you find a way to support CJK *without* e-Omega, you should also try that route; there already is some support for Chinese, AFAIK, in ConTeXt, so maybe something else can be done without making use of Omega-specific features (you're welcome to make use of e-TeX features, which are now almost universally available). In any case, good luck with your project, -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta