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* Guttenberg's dissertation typeset in ConTeXt
@ 2011-02-21 17:27 Johannes Kuester
  2011-02-21 17:43 ` Arthur Reutenauer
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From: Johannes Kuester @ 2011-02-21 17:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Did anyone on this list know (or did anyone notice yet) that the print
version of the much-discussed dissertation by Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg
was (allegedly) typeset in ConTeXt?

See
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verfassung_und_Verfassungsvertrag._Konstitutionelle_Entwicklungsstufen_in_den_USA_und_der_EU
(in section "Äußere Form").

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* Re: Guttenberg's dissertation typeset in ConTeXt
  2011-02-21 17:27 Guttenberg's dissertation typeset in ConTeXt Johannes Kuester
@ 2011-02-21 17:43 ` Arthur Reutenauer
  2011-02-21 17:47   ` Matthias Weber
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> Did anyone on this list know (or did anyone notice yet) that the print
> version of the much-discussed dissertation by Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg
> was (allegedly) typeset in ConTeXt?

  From my German colleague: "We should test if he masters ConTeXt.  If
he doesn't..."

	Arthur

P-S: Whether that particular piece of information is true or not, it
will bring some attention to ConTeXt!  The ConTeXt community should try
and take advantage of that :-)  I wonder how the author of the Wikipedia
article knows that, though.  Presumably, someone got hold of a PDF
version of the dissertation?
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* Re: Guttenberg's dissertation typeset in ConTeXt
  2011-02-21 17:43 ` Arthur Reutenauer
@ 2011-02-21 17:47   ` Matthias Weber
  2011-02-21 17:53     ` Arthur Reutenauer
  2011-02-21 17:52   ` Johannes Kuester
  2011-02-21 17:57   ` Philipp Gesang
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From: Matthias Weber @ 2011-02-21 17:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
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The dissertation was typeset (for publication) by  werksatz • Büro für Typografie und Buchgestaltung. Berlin,
and my guess is that they are using ConTeXt.

Matthias


On Feb 21, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:

>> Did anyone on this list know (or did anyone notice yet) that the print
>> version of the much-discussed dissertation by Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg
>> was (allegedly) typeset in ConTeXt?
> 
>  From my German colleague: "We should test if he masters ConTeXt.  If
> he doesn't..."
> 
> 	Arthur
> 
> P-S: Whether that particular piece of information is true or not, it
> will bring some attention to ConTeXt!  The ConTeXt community should try
> and take advantage of that :-)  I wonder how the author of the Wikipedia
> article knows that, though.  Presumably, someone got hold of a PDF
> version of the dissertation?
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* Re: Guttenberg's dissertation typeset in ConTeXt
  2011-02-21 17:43 ` Arthur Reutenauer
  2011-02-21 17:47   ` Matthias Weber
@ 2011-02-21 17:52   ` Johannes Kuester
  2011-02-22 12:22     ` Steffen Wolfrum
  2011-02-21 17:57   ` Philipp Gesang
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From: Johannes Kuester @ 2011-02-21 17:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
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The Google Docs version --
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0BxWgi9nKtBIUNGNmYWM3ZDgtMjUwYy00YjZkLWExZWQtNDY1MDZmMTQ3MGI3&hl=en
-- does not look like ConTeXt. But I think this is not the typeset and
published version.

I suppose by the "Satz:" entry on p. 5, the Wikipedia author guessed
that it was typeset in ConTeXt.

And yes, it will definitely bring some attention to ConTeXt.
When you look at "Links auf diese Seite" (i.e. "What links here"),
the article on the dissertation is the first untypical / unexpected link:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezial:Linkliste/ConTeXt

    Johannes

On 02/21/2011 06:43 PM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
>> Did anyone on this list know (or did anyone notice yet) that the print
>> version of the much-discussed dissertation by Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg
>> was (allegedly) typeset in ConTeXt?
> 
>   From my German colleague: "We should test if he masters ConTeXt.  If
> he doesn't..."
> 
> 	Arthur
> 
> P-S: Whether that particular piece of information is true or not, it
> will bring some attention to ConTeXt!  The ConTeXt community should try
> and take advantage of that :-)  I wonder how the author of the Wikipedia
> article knows that, though.  Presumably, someone got hold of a PDF
> version of the dissertation?
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!
> 
> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
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> archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
> wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> 

-- 
Johannes Kuester
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* Re: Guttenberg's dissertation typeset in ConTeXt
  2011-02-21 17:47   ` Matthias Weber
@ 2011-02-21 17:53     ` Arthur Reutenauer
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From: Arthur Reutenauer @ 2011-02-21 17:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> The dissertation was typeset (for publication) by  werksatz • Büro für Typografie und Buchgestaltung. Berlin,
> and my guess is that they are using ConTeXt.

  Yep!

  From http://werksatz.com/framesk.html

	Wir bieten Ihnen hochwertigen Buchsatz mit dem Satzsystem
	ConTeXt	der niederländischen Firma Pragma ADE.

and the next sentence hints that they are probably reading this list.

	Arthur
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* Re: Guttenberg's dissertation typeset in ConTeXt
  2011-02-21 17:43 ` Arthur Reutenauer
  2011-02-21 17:47   ` Matthias Weber
  2011-02-21 17:52   ` Johannes Kuester
@ 2011-02-21 17:57   ` Philipp Gesang
  2011-02-22  9:55     ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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On 2011-02-21 <17:43:08>, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
> > Did anyone on this list know (or did anyone notice yet) that the print
> > version of the much-discussed dissertation by Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg
> > was (allegedly) typeset in ConTeXt?
> 
>   From my German colleague: "We should test if he masters ConTeXt.  If
> he doesn't..."
> 
> 	Arthur
> 
> P-S: Whether that particular piece of information is true or not, it
> will bring some attention to ConTeXt!  The ConTeXt community should try
> and take advantage of that :-)                                          

Yeah, we should release a module that scrapes online newspaper
sites using luasocket and randomly inserts the content via
Context xml processing. In combination with [1] this should make
future political candidates dependent on Context to a degree [pun
not intended] that would allow us to coerce them into generous
public funding for the project …

Philipp, who had incredible fun following these developments
         during the last week

[1] http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2008/030558.html


>                                 I wonder how the author of the Wikipedia
> article knows that, though.  Presumably, someone got hold of a PDF
> version of the dissertation?

PS: In this matter I wouldn’t even trust the pdf metadata --
    could be a fake like the rest.

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* Re: Guttenberg's dissertation typeset in ConTeXt
  2011-02-21 17:57   ` Philipp Gesang
@ 2011-02-22  9:55     ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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Am 2011-02-21 um 18:57 schrieb Philipp Gesang:
>>                                I wonder how the author of the  
>> Wikipedia
>> article knows that, though.  Presumably, someone got hold of a PDF
>> version of the dissertation?
>
> PS: In this matter I wouldn’t even trust the pdf metadata --
>    could be a fake like the rest.

Good idea, I’ll change the metadata of all of my InDesign works :*)

(BTW: Did werksatz enhance \fakethesis to use real text?)

Greetlings from Lake Constance!
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* Re: Guttenberg's dissertation typeset in ConTeXt
  2011-02-21 17:52   ` Johannes Kuester
@ 2011-02-22 12:22     ` Steffen Wolfrum
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Am 21.02.2011 um 18:52 schrieb Johannes Kuester:

> The Google Docs version --
> https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0BxWgi9nKtBIUNGNmYWM3ZDgtMjUwYy00YjZkLWExZWQtNDY1MDZmMTQ3MGI3&hl=en
> -- does not look like ConTeXt. But I think this is not the typeset and
> published version.


The published book is typeset in pdfTeX with ConTeXt MkII, with hz machinery used, resulting in quite nicely balanced lines.

Those Google Docs are scanned (watch OCR mistakes!) and use horrible font substitution.


Best example: Preface (=Vorwort), page 6, third paragraph, line 7: "den icaipöq (Kairos)"

This "icaipöq" was once greek: "καιρός" :o)


Steffen


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