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* Text in a box now broken
@ 2011-11-22  5:23 Kip Warner
  2011-11-22  5:49 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Kip Warner @ 2011-11-22  5:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hey folks,

I noticed as of maybe a week ago, that all of the text I have positioned
inside of a box has disappeared. I can see everything else, as before,
but not the stuff in the box. The box just shows up as a mangled line.

The following is a minimal example from ConTeXt version 2011.11.17
09:18. This code was working just fine a few days ago.

\definestartstop
    [TimelineDocument]
    [before={
        \crlf
        \setupbackground[frame=on,
                         before=\blank,
                         after=\blank,
                         corner=round,
                         topoffset=0.5cm,
                         leftoffset=0.5cm,
                         rightoffset=0.5cm,
                         bottomoffset=0.5cm]
        \startbackground
            },
     after={
        \stopbackground
        \crlf
           },
     commands={\setupalign[yes]},
     style=italic]

\starttext
\startTimelineDocument
Some stuff in a box.
\stopTimelineDocument
\stoptext

Thanks a lot.

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* Re: Text in a box now broken
  2011-11-22  5:23 Text in a box now broken Kip Warner
@ 2011-11-22  5:49 ` Wolfgang Schuster
  2011-11-22 21:28   ` Kip Warner
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2011-11-22  5:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 22.11.2011 um 06:23 schrieb Kip Warner:

> Hey folks,
> 
> I noticed as of maybe a week ago, that all of the text I have positioned
> inside of a box has disappeared. I can see everything else, as before,
> but not the stuff in the box. The box just shows up as a mangled line.
> 
> The following is a minimal example from ConTeXt version 2011.11.17
> 09:18. This code was working just fine a few days ago.


This is tested and works on my machine:

\definebackground
  [TimelineDocumentFrame]
  [frame=on,
   before=\blank,
   after=\blank,
   corner=round,
   topoffset=0.5cm,
   rightoffset=0.5cm]

\definestartstop
  [TimelineDocument]
  [before=\startTimelineDocumentFrame,
   after=\stopTimelineDocumentFrame,
   style=italic]

\starttext

\startTimelineDocument
Some stuff in a box.
\stopTimelineDocument

\stoptext

Wolfgang
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* Re: Text in a box now broken
  2011-11-22  5:49 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2011-11-22 21:28   ` Kip Warner
  2011-11-22 23:43   ` Kip Warner
  2011-11-23  1:41   ` Kip Warner
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From: Kip Warner @ 2011-11-22 21:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, 2011-11-22 at 06:49 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> This is tested and works on my machine:
> 
> \definebackground
>   [TimelineDocumentFrame]
>   [frame=on,
>    before=\blank,
>    after=\blank,
>    corner=round,
>    topoffset=0.5cm,
>    rightoffset=0.5cm]
> 
> \definestartstop
>   [TimelineDocument]
>   [before=\startTimelineDocumentFrame,
>    after=\stopTimelineDocumentFrame,
>    style=italic]
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \startTimelineDocument
> Some stuff in a box.
> \stopTimelineDocument
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> Wolfgang

Thanks Wolfgang. You're always very helpful. Any idea why my version
stopped working or why it is not a good approach?

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* Re: Text in a box now broken
  2011-11-22  5:49 ` Wolfgang Schuster
  2011-11-22 21:28   ` Kip Warner
@ 2011-11-22 23:43   ` Kip Warner
  2011-11-23  1:41   ` Kip Warner
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From: Kip Warner @ 2011-11-22 23:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, 2011-11-22 at 06:49 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> This is tested and works on my machine:
> 
> \definebackground
>   [TimelineDocumentFrame]
>   [frame=on,
>    before=\blank,
>    after=\blank,
>    corner=round,
>    topoffset=0.5cm,
>    rightoffset=0.5cm]
> 
> \definestartstop
>   [TimelineDocument]
>   [before=\startTimelineDocumentFrame,
>    after=\stopTimelineDocumentFrame,
>    style=italic]
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \startTimelineDocument
> Some stuff in a box.
> \stopTimelineDocument
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> Wolfgang

Hey Wolfgang. One other thing. Your \definebackground and
\defomestartstop works fine in the minimal example you gave, but if I
take it into my environment of my existing project and replace my old
\definestartstop with that, I still have the same problem of the mangled
box with no visible text in it.

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* Re: Text in a box now broken
  2011-11-22  5:49 ` Wolfgang Schuster
  2011-11-22 21:28   ` Kip Warner
  2011-11-22 23:43   ` Kip Warner
@ 2011-11-23  1:41   ` Kip Warner
  2011-11-23  8:57     ` Hans Hagen
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From: Kip Warner @ 2011-11-23  1:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, 2011-11-22 at 06:49 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> This is tested and works on my machine:
> 
> \definebackground
>   [TimelineDocumentFrame]
>   [frame=on,
>    before=\blank,
>    after=\blank,
>    corner=round,
>    topoffset=0.5cm,
>    rightoffset=0.5cm]
> 
> \definestartstop
>   [TimelineDocument]
>   [before=\startTimelineDocumentFrame,
>    after=\stopTimelineDocumentFrame,
>    style=italic]
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \startTimelineDocument
> Some stuff in a box.
> \stopTimelineDocument
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> Wolfgang

Hey Wolfgang. I just retested your minimal and realized that while it
does work, only for the first box. Try this and you'll see what I mean:

\definebackground
[TimelineDocumentFrame]
[frame=on,
before=\blank,
after=\blank,
corner=round,
topoffset=0.5cm,
rightoffset=0.5cm]

\definestartstop
[TimelineDocument]
[before=\startTimelineDocumentFrame,
after=\stopTimelineDocumentFrame,
style=italic]

\starttext

\startTimelineDocument
Some stuff in a box.
\stopTimelineDocument

\startTimelineDocument
Some more stuff in a box.
\stopTimelineDocument

\stoptext

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* Re: Text in a box now broken
  2011-11-23  1:41   ` Kip Warner
@ 2011-11-23  8:57     ` Hans Hagen
  2011-11-23  9:01       ` Kip Warner
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-11-23  8:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 23-11-2011 02:41, Kip Warner wrote:

> Hey Wolfgang. I just retested your minimal and realized that while it
> does work, only for the first box. Try this and you'll see what I mean:

fixed in next beta


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* Re: Text in a box now broken
  2011-11-23  8:57     ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-11-23  9:01       ` Kip Warner
  2011-11-23  9:16         ` Hans Hagen
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On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 09:57 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:
> fixed in next beta

Thanks Hans. I thought something was amiss and figured it was a bug,
since it was working fine until a recent new version of ConTeXt.
Hopefully the PPA I am drawing ConTeXt from pulls the fixed version some
time soon. Was the fix committed to mainline?

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* Re: Text in a box now broken
  2011-11-23  9:01       ` Kip Warner
@ 2011-11-23  9:16         ` Hans Hagen
  2011-11-23  9:25           ` Kip Warner
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-11-23  9:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kip Warner; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users

On 23-11-2011 10:01, Kip Warner wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 09:57 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> fixed in next beta
>
> Thanks Hans. I thought something was amiss and figured it was a bug,
> since it was working fine until a recent new version of ConTeXt.
> Hopefully the PPA I am drawing ConTeXt from pulls the fixed version some
> time soon. Was the fix committed to mainline?

if you consider beta to be mainline, yes (but not yet uploaded)

(it was a side effect of mkiv-ing the code .. keep in mind that these 
backgrounds are somewhat old .. textbackgrounds are an alternative)

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* Re: Text in a box now broken
  2011-11-23  9:16         ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-11-23  9:25           ` Kip Warner
  2011-11-23 10:03             ` Hans Hagen
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On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 10:16 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:
> if you consider beta to be mainline, yes (but not yet uploaded)
> 
> (it was a side effect of mkiv-ing the code .. keep in mind that these 
> backgrounds are somewhat old .. textbackgrounds are an alternative)

Understood. Do you have a more appropriate version of what I was trying
to do using textbackgounds instead?

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* Re: Text in a box now broken
  2011-11-23  9:25           ` Kip Warner
@ 2011-11-23 10:03             ` Hans Hagen
  2011-11-23 19:02               ` Kip Warner
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-11-23 10:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kip Warner; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users

On 23-11-2011 10:25, Kip Warner wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 10:16 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> if you consider beta to be mainline, yes (but not yet uploaded)
>>
>> (it was a side effect of mkiv-ing the code .. keep in mind that these
>> backgrounds are somewhat old .. textbackgrounds are an alternative)
>
> Understood. Do you have a more appropriate version of what I was trying
> to do using textbackgounds instead?

it depends .. if you have small boxes, you as well use a regular 
framedtext (with background) or when you span pages you can use 
textbackgrounds ... the backgrounds you use is some compromise

Hans

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* Re: Text in a box now broken
  2011-11-23 10:03             ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-11-23 19:02               ` Kip Warner
  2011-11-23 19:08                 ` Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Kip Warner @ 2011-11-23 19:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Hans Hagen; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users


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On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 11:03 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:
> it depends .. if you have small boxes, you as well use a regular 
> framedtext (with background) or when you span pages you can use 
> textbackgrounds ... the backgrounds you use is some compromise 

Hmm, I am using boxes that sometimes span multiple pages. This is what I
was using originally. How would it look if it used textbackgrounds?

\definestartstop
    [TimelineDocument]
    [before={
        \crlf
        \setupbackground[frame=on,
                         before=\blank,
                         after=\blank,
                         corner=round,
                         topoffset=0.5cm,
                         leftoffset=0.5cm,
                         rightoffset=0.5cm,
                         bottomoffset=0.5cm]
        \startbackground
            },
     after={
        \stopbackground
        \crlf
           },
     commands={\setupalign[yes]},
     style=italic]

\starttext
\startTimelineDocument
Some stuff in a box.
\stopTimelineDocument
\stoptext

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* Re: Text in a box now broken
  2011-11-23 19:02               ` Kip Warner
@ 2011-11-23 19:08                 ` Hans Hagen
  2011-11-24  1:37                   ` Kip Warner
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-11-23 19:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kip Warner; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users

On 23-11-2011 20:02, Kip Warner wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 11:03 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> it depends .. if you have small boxes, you as well use a regular
>> framedtext (with background) or when you span pages you can use
>> textbackgrounds ... the backgrounds you use is some compromise
>
> Hmm, I am using boxes that sometimes span multiple pages. This is what I
> was using originally. How would it look if it used textbackgrounds?
>
> \definestartstop
>      [TimelineDocument]
>      [before={
>          \crlf
>          \setupbackground[frame=on,
>                           before=\blank,
>                           after=\blank,
>                           corner=round,
>                           topoffset=0.5cm,
>                           leftoffset=0.5cm,
>                           rightoffset=0.5cm,
>                           bottomoffset=0.5cm]
>          \startbackground
>              },
>       after={
>          \stopbackground
>          \crlf
>             },
>       commands={\setupalign[yes]},
>       style=italic]
>
> \starttext
> \startTimelineDocument
> Some stuff in a box.
> \stopTimelineDocument
> \stoptext
>

google: context wiki textbackground

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* Re: Text in a box now broken
  2011-11-23 19:08                 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-11-24  1:37                   ` Kip Warner
  2011-11-24  8:44                     ` Hans Hagen
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On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 20:08 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:
> google: context wiki textbackground

Thanks, but I still don't know what was wrong with the old method. In
any case, I am experimenting now with textbackground. Thanks again for
your help.

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* Re: Text in a box now broken
  2011-11-24  1:37                   ` Kip Warner
@ 2011-11-24  8:44                     ` Hans Hagen
  2011-11-24 22:57                       ` Kip Warner
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-11-24  8:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kip Warner; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users

On 24-11-2011 02:37, Kip Warner wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 20:08 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> google: context wiki textbackground
>
> Thanks, but I still don't know what was wrong with the old method. In
> any case, I am experimenting now with textbackground. Thanks again for
> your help.

the old one is fixed anyway


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* Re: Text in a box now broken
  2011-11-24  8:44                     ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-11-24 22:57                       ` Kip Warner
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From: Kip Warner @ 2011-11-24 22:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Hans Hagen; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users


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On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 09:44 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:
> the old one is fixed anyway

Thanks anyways.

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2011-11-22  5:23 Text in a box now broken Kip Warner
2011-11-22  5:49 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2011-11-22 21:28   ` Kip Warner
2011-11-22 23:43   ` Kip Warner
2011-11-23  1:41   ` Kip Warner
2011-11-23  8:57     ` Hans Hagen
2011-11-23  9:01       ` Kip Warner
2011-11-23  9:16         ` Hans Hagen
2011-11-23  9:25           ` Kip Warner
2011-11-23 10:03             ` Hans Hagen
2011-11-23 19:02               ` Kip Warner
2011-11-23 19:08                 ` Hans Hagen
2011-11-24  1:37                   ` Kip Warner
2011-11-24  8:44                     ` Hans Hagen
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